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I think there is more to come TTT. They are already arguing about the likely tax increases to cover the shortfall created when we leave. Italy is particularly vociferous in it's demands for funds to cover our "missing" dosh, and insists that they will not pay increased "taxes" themselves regardless.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/01/17/brexit-will-bring-bitter-eu-budget-wars-report-warns/

Then there is the shortfall in the healthcare "contributions".
""BRITAIN paid European governments nearly £565million more last year to treat UK citizens abroad than the government got back from them to care for their nationals, official figures have shown.""
How come we pay £565million a year more, to treat uk citizens abroad, than the other 27 EU spongers pay us?

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/940091/Brexit-news-Britain-abused-EU-health-tourism-gap-NHS-crisis
10:33 Mon 02nd Apr 2018
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yes it stands to reason that the others are going to have to pay more, no one is going to like that.
10:38 Mon 02nd Apr 2018
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Do you think they may blame us for paying more?
10:41 Mon 02nd Apr 2018
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No. But they will want to blame us when we are paying less.
10:43 Mon 02nd Apr 2018
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no, I think they are grateful while it lasted but now they'll have to pay more or cut costs.
10:44 Mon 02nd Apr 2018
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And is there a possibility that this dislike could spill over into not wanting to trade with us?
10:45 Mon 02nd Apr 2018
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ooo I see ZM is using a project fear technique. Anything you say ZM works both ways, I hoped you would have grasped that by now.
10:47 Mon 02nd Apr 2018
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It’s you who mentioned ‘tyrrany’ in your OP. Project fear works both ways. Do you have any concrete reasons for describing the EU as tyrannical?
10:48 Mon 02nd Apr 2018
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Power-mad bureaucrats living in a bubble of unearned privilege - Junker hiring private jets to fly him to Rome and back etc. If it were to downsize drastically and reform it would survive - (and be of benefit to the citizens of Europe) but there is about as much chance of the EU reforming from within, as there is of Islam doing similarly. For the sake of the continent's survival, they both need to be strangled.
10:51 Mon 02nd Apr 2018
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yes, I could ZM but I think that is worthy of another subject, why don't you start another thread. In the mean time have a go at the question as asked here.
10:52 Mon 02nd Apr 2018
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//Do you have any concrete reasons for describing the EU as tyrannical?//
OMG! Ask David Cameron for a start.
10:53 Mon 02nd Apr 2018
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Awww, gawd. The old ‘start another thread’ posts. Some people can see through you you know Tora. You asked a question with the overblown word ‘tyrrany’ in it. All I’ve asked you to do is give some examples of that tyranny. It’s not worthy of a separate question. It just need the author to qualify why he used it.
10:55 Mon 02nd Apr 2018
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Go on the Khandro.........you explain.
10:55 Mon 02nd Apr 2018
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The UK was never fully committed to the EU project so I am not convinced that Brexit will have much of an effect, other than meaning others will have to pay more. In fact Brexit might be a good thing for the EU. When one of the bigger countries abandons the euro I will start to believe project fear.
10:58 Mon 02nd Apr 2018
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ok ZM you start another thread to debate whether the EU is a tyranny. For the purpose of this question I assert that it is, though if it helps you focus, replace the word "tyranny" with something you like lets call it ZM ism. Then the question becomes "Has UK once again saved Europe from ZM ism" - if you agree that the EU is going to collapse in the next generation as stated in the link then the UK has indeed saved Europe from ZM ism and you can safely answer yes....capiesch?
11:01 Mon 02nd Apr 2018
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It's OK ZM, I am nothing if not helpful:
https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1600463.html
11:07 Mon 02nd Apr 2018
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What on Earth are you on about man? Your ‘tap room at the Dog & Duck’ philosophy on Brexit has once again been exposed. You shouldn’t go using words which automatically make a question flawed. Basic 6th form debating technique.
11:08 Mon 02nd Apr 2018
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// Your ‘tap room at the Dog & Duck’ philosophy on Brexit //

Haha.....ZM prefers to drink at "Der Hund und die Ente."
11:42 Mon 02nd Apr 2018
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Like it, Togo.
11:46 Mon 02nd Apr 2018
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Il parle merde down there too with the rest of the Europhiles.
11:51 Mon 02nd Apr 2018

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