Ming The Merciless Says The Limp Dums Are On The Way Back......

[ToraToraTora]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-43644956/sir-vince-cable-launches-the-lib-dems-english-local-election-campaign
TBH with the cack that Agent Cob and the boys find themselves in at the mo he may well pick up some disaffected Labour voters. Could this be a Yellow revival?

[Old_Geezer]

They've been going back the whole time they've been formed.

[Jackdaw33]

Doubt it. I would rather vote Labour than for them.

[dannyk13]

TTT, What happens in local elections has little bearing on a General Election.

[ToraToraTora]

yes danny just pondering on what Ming is on about and the current state of Labour may well be of benefit to them.

[Jackdaw33]

Actually I vote for one of my Labour councillors whenever she is up for re-election. I do not do so because she is Labour but because she does a damned good job. When we were deprived of buses on our street she single-handedly had them restored.

[ToraToraTora]

yes JD, no doubt there are a lot of good Councillors on the ground for Labour, they must be mortified at what the main party is up to at the moment.

[jourdain2]

So far as Vince Cable is concerned, he hasn't much choice - he has to sound positive and try to whip up enthusiasm. That doesn't make it true.

[ichkeria]

It may only be a matter of time before a new party of the centre emerges. Vince Cable and Nick Clegg have both hinted fairly strongly that they would be up for merging the Lib Dems with a new force.
Between the Brexit bullies of much of the Tory party and Momentum and the neo-Trotskyites in Labour, and with the Lib Dems struggling to make an impression, a lot of voters feel that the main parties don't represent them. Labour and the Tories both have a lot om members and indeed MPs who feel that the way their parties are going does not sit well with them.

[david small]

Nick Clegg is dead but won’t lie down. The fibbing Libs may re-emerge from the abyss, as the alternative invokes fear and uncertainty. What we have now reeks.
The options are dire, the consequences severe.

[Hopkirk]

Well they alienate an awful lot of the electorate by persisting with the undemocratic demand to overturn the referendum result.

A bit rich, when they have democrat in their name.

A lot of their former constituencies voted strongly to leave, so how do they expect to win them back?

[jourdain2]

To quote NJ, Hoppy, 'Quite'.

[youngmafbog]

"the Brexit bullies "

I presume you mean those that are attempting to get the leavers what they wanted?

Clegg and Cable trying to form a centre Party will fail because of them. However I can see some other non tainted politician having a go. Having said that I dont see how it could be liberal democat 'merge' as the lib dems are already merged and look what happened.

Needs a fresh start by a centre road Farage type.

[cassa333]

Change Brexit bullies to Remainer bullies.

Brexit is Brexit. It is Remainers who are trying to bully the life out of Brexit. Especially so with the likes of sanctimonious condescending Europhile fanatics such as Zac m

[Jackdaw33]

Nice one, cassa.

[Kromovaracun]

The Lib Dems are probably closer to my own politics than any of the other parliamentary parties at the moment. I've voted for them before because their candidate in the area I was living (who lost the seat in 2015 and contested it in 2017) actually did a lot for the town and was in general a very effective MP. He was pretty soundly trounced, though, and likely won't ever be coming back. I also think pretty highly of Vince Cable, even if I don't agree with him on everything.

They won't ever do better than they did in 1983, though. And even then - despite getting about the same % of votes as Labour did - they obtained hardly any seats. We live in a broken, antiquated two-party system that is bad for democracy and it won't ever change. So the Lib Dems are forever doomed.

[Jackdaw33]

They were two separate parties in 1983, Liberal and SDP.

[Kromovaracun]

Weren't they an alliance, though? And running effectively as one party?

[youngmafbog]

We dont have to have a two party system, it is thaat at present because no one has got to grips with delivering an alternative.

As for the lack of seats for votes, how do you feel for UKIP who got 4m votes for how many seats?