National Action - Right Wing Terrorist Threat

[Gromit]

There has been reluctance in some quarters to accept the danger of this Neo-Nazi organisation. Hopefully the testimony in Court this week will dispel that.

// The alleged leader of a neo-Nazi terrorist group urged one of his subordinates to assassinate the former home secretary Amber Rudd, a court has heard.

Renshaw detailed how he was going to murder [Labour MP] Ms Cooper with a machete before taking hostages in a pub.

Another defendant, Matthew Hankinson, said Renshaw should target a synagogue – even if there were children inside – because “all Jews are the same, they’re all vermin”. //

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/national-action-neo-nazi-uk-terror-plot-labour-mp-machete-amber-rudd-renshaw-lythgoe-a8397521.html

Dangerous men (targetting women) hopefully a long prison will result.

[ludwig]

That Carleton-Taylor piece in a nutshell..
right wing evil.
left wing good.

[ToraToraTora]

JTT: “"Don't like a thread?"
Just run on, shout "Muslims" and run out again.....” – well this is about anti Semitism, let’s see what party has been the most pro terrorist and anti semitic in recent times?

SP: “No - I mean the Far Right.
As far back as I can remember, the Far Right have targeted Jewish people, and it’s never made sense to me.” Then how do you explain that Labour is now by the most anti semitic party in history? I feel you are ignoring the current situation, barely do you hear of the Torys being anti semitic.

[sp1814]

TTT

Yeah, the Labour thing is weird. I can only think it stems from the reframing of the Zionist movement as an imperialist project imposing apartheid on an indigenous people?

And then there was Ken Livingstone’s defence of Nah Shaz (astonishingly wrong). That’s how I think Labour ended up in the mess it’s in...

...but it still doesn’t make sense that the Far Right should hate the Jews. The fact that the defendant is accused of saying that they should target a synagogue – even if there were children inside – because “all Jews are the same, they’re all vermin” makes no sense. What have the Jews ever done to the Far Right?

Like you say, we shouldn’t look at the National Front - they’re dead and gone, but in 2018, surely the Far Right should be focusing their efforts elsewhere?

[-Talbot-]

And where do you get the idea that I won’t criticise Muslims?



LOL... You would have beaten Nadia Comăneci to all her golds with the gymnastics you have performed on this thread, sp.

[jackthehat]

///JTT: “"Don't like a thread?"
Just run on, shout "Muslims" and run out again.....” – well this is about anti Semitism, let’s see what party has been the most pro terrorist and anti semitic in recent times? ///

Geezer - This thread is about the prosecution of a group of men 'alleged' be to be on the far-right. Why not discuss that instead of dragging in extraneous, diversionary and unnecessary details?

I'm a bit disappointed that the 'usual' comment hasn't yet been made......but there is plenty of time for someone to put that right...

[sp1814]

-Talbot-

I didn’t think I had referred to you on this thread.

Have I?

Really confused by your post.

[ludwig]

The far right's hatred of the Jews comes from the same place as the far left's sp. They both see themselves as representing the downtrodden masses, and 'The Jews' as being the main players behind the shadowy parastical cabal of bankers, money lenders and industrialists doing the down treading, aided and abetted by their lackies in the journalism and entertainment industries.

It's the same scapegoating sheite from both directions.

[kvalidir]

Nadia Comeneci- was Romanian, could have been a Muslim :/

[sp1814]

ludwig

Thanks for that. It would appear that the answer is that Jews are ‘useful targets’ for both the Far Left and the Far Right then.

God, I hate bigots.

[ludwig]

Bigotry is what it is sp, and fascism. Left and right hasn't got much to do with it as far as I'm concerned. It's a circle. When you go far enough in either direction you meet up again at the same point.

[Togo]

Definitions that have not been "tweaked" to mean what the writer or slavish reader want them to.
Nationalism. Def. Collins.
Nationalism is the desire for political independence of people who feel they are historically or culturally a separate group within a country.

Patriotism. Def. Collins
Patriotism is love for your country and loyalty towards it.

Notice no mention of "superior" or indeed inferior.
Some more definitions as supplied by the Beep Beep See.

Pakistani rapists and sex offenders.....Asians.

People who protest about such groups of people. Far Right.

Left wing mobs. Anti Racists.

[-Talbot-]

sp1418
Talbot-

I didn’t think I had referred to you on this thread.

Have I?

Really confused by your post.



Nothing new there... you may not have referred to me but I posed you a question.

[-Talbot-]

Ironic that Gromit normally corrects us on antisemitism


The Jews make up the so called attacks as to get more money or something......

[-Talbot-]

If the Romanian Orthodox Church belongs to Islam then maybe she is a Muslim.

I somehow doubt it but regardless your post makes no sense, Kval.
Terrible use of a non-smiley face.

[sp1814]

-Talbot-

You wrote:

//And where do you get the idea that I won’t criticise Muslims?//

Were you talking to me?

[-Talbot-]

I first wrote


-Talbot-
To me, I think “Jews have been through enough - time to give them a break”.


Who (not what ABers) is that aimed at, sp,?
11:21 Thu 14th Jun 2018

[-Talbot-]

And then I wrote

-Talbot-
And where do you get the idea that I won’t criticise Muslims?



LOL... You would have beaten Nadia Comăneci to all her golds with the gymnastics you have performed on this thread, sp.


As they were your original words and I put 'sp' at the end of my sentence...who do you think I was talking to?

[sp1814]

-Talbot-

And on that bombshell...

[-Talbot-]

The bombshell of you refusing to answer a question...actually that is hardly a bombshell is it.

[Theland]

Naomi - Good link. I know you won't like this, but can I draw your attention to the Old Testament prophecies regarding the Jews, where the anti semitism is foretold and the prophecies have been 100% correct?