More Nhs Privatisation On The Way ?

[Canary42]

Typical Tory sleaze - and more tax-payers money to line rich shareholders pockets. The transfer of OUR NHS to Tory cronies will obviously continue.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/new-health-secretary-matt-hancock-12891819

[naomi24]

Krom, as difficult as it may be for you to acknowledge, "this kind of thing" is nothing new. It's been going on for years as evidenced by my post at 07:16.

If the NHS is to survive, it needs a thorough and complete overhaul from the roots up.

[Kromovaracun]

//Krom, as difficult as it may be for you to acknowledge, "this kind of thing" is nothing new. It's been going on for years as evidenced by my post at 07:16. //

That's exactly the problem!

[Sqad]

Kromo....^^

Unfortunately that isn't the problem, it seems to be the solution,papering over the cracks to maintain at all cost, the idea of a NHS free to all at the point of delivery.
Privatisation will NEVER be accepted in the U.K

[Kromovaracun]

//Privatisation will NEVER be accepted in the U.K //

Completely agree.

Repurposing the NHS as a cashcow for private enterprise, however, is all but a fait accompli.

[naomi24]

Krom, //That's exactly the problem!//

If the posts by you and Canary are anything to go by, it’s not exactly the problem. It’s all the fault of the Conservatives.

[gulliver1]

How can we save save the NHS? * Simple ! * Get rid of this corrupt Conservative Government.

[naomi24]

Haha! That’ll work, gulliver!! Your lot have a magic money tree.

[Kromovaracun]

OK, I'll nail this one on the head (again).

I'm not some diehard Labour fanatic. I've never voted Labour in any GE (though I have once in local elections I think). I hold New Labour (who are justifiably called 'red tories' imo) as equally responsible for the state of the NHS, for the same reasons. I've openly said on here that I will struggle to vote for Corbyn in the next election (if he is there) despite agreeing with a number of his policies.

It's the tories who are in power atm though, and New Labour are to all intents and purposes dead and buried. So given that the Tories a) still exist b) are in a position to fix it, and c) are instead actively continuing the problem, it's only fair that they get the most flack.

[dannyk13]

You mean like these Gulliver?
http://www.londonlovesbusiness.com/business-news/politics/top-10-most-shocking-labour-party-scandals/7527.article

[naomi24]

Krom, //it's only fair that they get the most flack. //

But it is not fair that they are deemed wholly to blame. The rot set in a very long time ago.

I'm getting thoroughly fed up with the ‘me, me, me’ needy mentality. Everyone wants what they want without a second thought about how getting it is to be achieved. Contrary to gulliver’s belief, money does not grow on trees.

[Kromovaracun]

It's hardly selfish to want less corruption in health policy.

[naomi24]

Krom, Not selfish at all ... in fact absolutely right .....but let us not restrict the criticism to those we like the least.

[Kromovaracun]

//But it is not fair that they are deemed wholly to blame//

"get the most flack"
"wholly to blame"

These two phrases mean completely different things. Of course they aren't wholly to blame, but they are in government now and have been for 8 years - if they believe that this is a problem then they have a duty to solve it. Instead they have poured gasoline on the fire. So they clearly don't. Imploring New Labour to solve this problem would be like putting a corpse on trial. It's dead, it doesn't exist anymore. The Tories, sadly, do.

[gulliver1]

Wrong again Naomi, The CONs picked every note off the magic money tree and shook it bare , to pay the DUP to help dig them out of the ***, when your leader called a G/E to increase her majority. and ended up with a bloody nose. PMSL.
PS, and they are still paying them now, bet they are laughing their socks of also.

[naomi24]

//Instead they have poured gasoline on the fire.//

Just as Labour did - and they had even more years to put it out. Short of scrapping the NHS as it stands and starting again from scratch - which is beyond the economic realms of possibility - there is no workable answer to this - for any government.

[dannyk13]

Gulliver, I see that you are ignoring my post at 08.16.

[naomi24]

Keep buying the incontinence pads, Gulliver.

[Kromovaracun]

I don't understand what your point is - I've already said I hold NL responsible.

[Kromovaracun]

Why do you think "Labour did it too"? is some kind of powerful point? It just demonstrates how adaptable and powerful the corrupt network of people sucking public money out of the NHS is.

[naomi24]

Krom, //Why do you think "Labour did it too"? is some kind of powerful point?//

I didn’t say ‘Labour did it too’ or that it’s a powerful point, simply that the rot set in years ago, it has continued under subsequent governments, and that no government, of whatever hue, is now capable of fixing it.