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So Assad Did Indeed Not Use Chemical Weapons In Douma.
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May: // After all, Daesh don't have helicopters // That comment was to jusify air strikes on Syria (with US and French allis) in retaliation for chemical weapons attacks, blamed on Assad. The line spun was that barrel bombs containing chemical weapons had been dropped from helicopters. Only Assad’s Government forces have helicopters and barrel bombs,...
11:23 Sun 22nd Jul 2018
interim report; "Work by the team to establish the significance of these results is on-going." They're still looking into chlorine
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Should be plenty of AB humble pie eaten. (I know there won't be. ;-))
Big shout out to Gromit & AOG. Strange bedfellows but events have proved them right time and time again re Syria. (I've been reading all the 'back-issues'. Sad, I know) ^ Often facing scorn and ridicule, incidentally.
Watch Theresa 'brexit means brexit' May lying through her teeth again. Saying that, open source evidence, while sounding impressive, just means 'any old claptrap' you heard somewhere.
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Big shout out to Gromit & AOG. Strange bedfellows but events have proved them right time and time again re Syria. (I've been reading all the 'back-issues'. Sad, I know) ^ Often facing scorn and ridicule, incidentally.
Watch Theresa 'brexit means brexit' May lying through her teeth again. Saying that, open source evidence, while sounding impressive, just means 'any old claptrap' you heard somewhere.
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The link posted by jno says chlorine may have been used. That’s a chemical weapon isn’t it?
Unfortunately the inspectors were denied access to the site for so long that it’s surprising they’ve even been able to come to that conclusion. A lot of scrubbing up I suspect was done by the culprits in the meantime
Unfortunately the inspectors were denied access to the site for so long that it’s surprising they’ve even been able to come to that conclusion. A lot of scrubbing up I suspect was done by the culprits in the meantime
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so how would you detect chlorine gas in an area where you've slooshed it, douched it, and then waited
well chlorine is an oxidising agent so you might find things chlorinated which is unepected - or find OCl radicals ( made from interaction of chlorine with water ) in nooks and crannies
I dont think there was any question that novichok agents were used- they werent. Spicey latterly reported that the British govt were ordered to give up samples at Salisbury to the KGB for verification didnt he? or am I having a pensioner's moment ?
well chlorine is an oxidising agent so you might find things chlorinated which is unepected - or find OCl radicals ( made from interaction of chlorine with water ) in nooks and crannies
I dont think there was any question that novichok agents were used- they werent. Spicey latterly reported that the British govt were ordered to give up samples at Salisbury to the KGB for verification didnt he? or am I having a pensioner's moment ?
Even if chemical weapons were used in Syria, there is no evidence that Assad/Russians were responsible. Throughout the civil war, Saudi Arabia has been arming the Syrian rebels with whatever they wanted.
// The American and British intelligence communities had been aware since the spring of 2013 that some rebel units in Syria were developing chemical weapons. On 20 June analysts for the US Defense Intelligence Agency issued a highly classified five-page ‘talking points’ briefing for the DIA’s deputy director, David Shedd, which stated that al-Nusra maintained a sarin production cell: its programme, the paper said, was ‘the most advanced sarin plot since al-Qaida’s pre-9/11 effort’. //
A couple of long reads here, but containing a lot more truth than the ‘official’ narrative on Syria.
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// The American and British intelligence communities had been aware since the spring of 2013 that some rebel units in Syria were developing chemical weapons. On 20 June analysts for the US Defense Intelligence Agency issued a highly classified five-page ‘talking points’ briefing for the DIA’s deputy director, David Shedd, which stated that al-Nusra maintained a sarin production cell: its programme, the paper said, was ‘the most advanced sarin plot since al-Qaida’s pre-9/11 effort’. //
A couple of long reads here, but containing a lot more truth than the ‘official’ narrative on Syria.
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//The link posted by jno says chlorine may have been used. That’s a chemical weapon isn’t it? //
In the same way that a butter knife can be a tactical assault weapon, yes.
Danny,Danny, Danny, not very polite for an old chap, are you?
I did indeed read the report. Then I took the trouble to read what the AB Armchair Generals had to say. They said, ad nauseam, that they knew it was Assad wot done it because he was the only one capable of building and *delivering nerve gas, sarin, chemical weapons etc.
*Mrs May even made a little 'joke' about it in the video, 'After all, Daesh don't have helicopters, do they, tee-hee'.
I dare say the Syrian state had access to chlorine, I could pop out to B&Q and buy a tub. The question is, would they use it as a weapon? I don't know, neither do you.
But we do know who definitely had stockpiles and wasn't slow in using it. Our old friends, Islamic Terrorists.
//The link posted by jno says chlorine may have been used. That’s a chemical weapon isn’t it? //
In the same way that a butter knife can be a tactical assault weapon, yes.
Danny,Danny, Danny, not very polite for an old chap, are you?
I did indeed read the report. Then I took the trouble to read what the AB Armchair Generals had to say. They said, ad nauseam, that they knew it was Assad wot done it because he was the only one capable of building and *delivering nerve gas, sarin, chemical weapons etc.
*Mrs May even made a little 'joke' about it in the video, 'After all, Daesh don't have helicopters, do they, tee-hee'.
I dare say the Syrian state had access to chlorine, I could pop out to B&Q and buy a tub. The question is, would they use it as a weapon? I don't know, neither do you.
But we do know who definitely had stockpiles and wasn't slow in using it. Our old friends, Islamic Terrorists.
Chlorine was the allegation all along and chlorine is now what the OPCW suspect.
Why don’t you admit the truth spice. Somehow or other you read ‘no evidence of nerve agent’ as ‘no evidence of illegal weapons’ - there was never any suggestion by anyone that nerve agents were used. Rather a chemical weapon such as, er chlorine :-)
Why don’t you admit the truth spice. Somehow or other you read ‘no evidence of nerve agent’ as ‘no evidence of illegal weapons’ - there was never any suggestion by anyone that nerve agents were used. Rather a chemical weapon such as, er chlorine :-)
May: // After all, Daesh don't have helicopters //
That comment was to jusify air strikes on Syria (with US and French allis) in retaliation for chemical weapons attacks, blamed on Assad.
The line spun was that barrel bombs containing chemical weapons had been dropped from helicopters. Only Assad’s Government forces have helicopters and barrel bombs, so it had to be them that released the gases.
But chemical weapons are better deployed at ground level where the people to be poisoned are. The Russians (if it were they) did not need helicopters to poison the Skirpal’s in Salisbury. Likewise, just spraying the air from a tall building in Syria (which any rebel group could have done) would be a better delivery method. The US knew in 2013 that al-Nusra had a chemical weapons factory in Syria, so the UK Government had that information as well. So when May said Daesh didn’t have helicopters (so they must be innocent) was at best, highly misleading.
That comment was to jusify air strikes on Syria (with US and French allis) in retaliation for chemical weapons attacks, blamed on Assad.
The line spun was that barrel bombs containing chemical weapons had been dropped from helicopters. Only Assad’s Government forces have helicopters and barrel bombs, so it had to be them that released the gases.
But chemical weapons are better deployed at ground level where the people to be poisoned are. The Russians (if it were they) did not need helicopters to poison the Skirpal’s in Salisbury. Likewise, just spraying the air from a tall building in Syria (which any rebel group could have done) would be a better delivery method. The US knew in 2013 that al-Nusra had a chemical weapons factory in Syria, so the UK Government had that information as well. So when May said Daesh didn’t have helicopters (so they must be innocent) was at best, highly misleading.
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