We Finally Know What Brexit Was All For!

[Zacs-Master]

I have the unequivocal answer from a couple of dyed in the wool Brexiters that it’s so that we can still get proper lightbulbs, decent paint stripper and weed killer.

Oh and some fluffy waffly stuff about the EU’s potential to be really really means to us at some unspecified point in the future if we remained.

No need to debate it any further everyone. It’s all clear now.

[jourdain2]

I've always known what Brexit is for, Z-M. and that is independence, sovereignty and freedom.

[dannyk13]

At last the penny has dropped for you,Congratulations.

[Zacs-Master]

Ha ha Danny actually admits it!

You couldn’t write this stuff comedy gold.

[Zacs-Master]

Go on then jourdain2, how exactly will leaving the EU change those three things and how, if they are to change, will it benefit us?

[ToraToraTora]

stop trolling ZM, we voted for what Jourdain said. All the rest is obfuscation we don't care about all the things you and the remoaners think are relevant. You just cannot comprehend that, can you.

[Zacs-Master]

Same question to you then, Torah.

[ToraToraTora]

our government will be in charge of the UK , our nation will be sovereign again, our judiciary will have the final say on legal matters and we'll be free from rule by an un elected corrupt foriegn power aided by VB oompa loopahs, is that plain enough for you?

[sandyRoe]

And beer in pints, vegetables sold again in pounds and ounces, and the shape of the bananas we consume nobodies business but our own.

[ToraToraTora]

perhaps sandy, but it will us that decides not the EUSSR.

[Zacs-Master]

Nope. Not at all. That’s just vague meaningless rhetoric.

What difference will being ‘Sovereign’ again make to our lives?

How will our judiciary having more control affect us (you can take a legal case as an example and point out how, if you like)?

What exact rules will we be free of and how will they affect our lives?

[Old_Geezer]

The difference is that we can have pride in ourselves knowing we aren't in the thrall of an external power and that we can change those who are given the job of governing the country. But this has been pointed out umpteen times. No need to debate it any further, it’s all clear now.

[ToraToraTora]

gawd you are like a broken record. I don't care about what effect it has to our daily lives.

[Zacs-Master]

And by escaping this ‘thrall’ we’ll be free to buy nice light bulbs, decent weed killer and proper paint stripper. Joy of joys, it’ll be like living a dream won’t it. I can’t wait.

[Zacs-Master]

Well I hope your prepared fo the consequences of your laissez-fair voting, then Torah and enjoy the benefit of all those decent life enhancing goods we”ll be able to buy.

[naomi24]

What on earth are you waffling about?

[ToraToraTora]

so let's sum up ZM, you don't care who runs the country as long as our daily lives are unaffected, is that correct? Like it or not the authorities do effect our lives, slowly over time. If they don't/haven't then what has been the point of being in the EUSSR anyway?

[jourdain2]

Thank you TTT and SandyR. My sister will not spend untold unnecessary hours completing forms that have nothing to do with their little MOT garage. Everyday life will be impacted in a million small ways. Importantly, we will pass our own laws and will have representation on them. If we want to deport a convicted criminal we will be able to do so. If we see an opportunity to make a deal with another country in some innovative area, we will be free to do it.

Z-M you are seizing on individual small things, but small things add up. 'Great oaks from little acorns grow', remember? I would love chickens to come with their giblets inside for instance - makes wonderful, nourishing stock.


There is a sense of a heavy, deadening hand pinning us down. I found it in action in France - where the helpful fonctionnaires spend most of their time trying find ways to get past the beaurocracy. The unhelpful ones sneer. Did you know that ex-pats were suddenly excluded from the French health system even if they paid the same into it as their French neighbours? Well it's true. A friend of mine killed himself over it, having fought and pleaded as hard as he could. Boxes had to be ticked. -- He hanged himself outside the front door, from the cherry-tree we had sat under so often. That is the heavy hand of EU beaurocracy….he was a Yorkshireman, by the way.

[naomi24]

Zacs, you need to keep the sun off your head.

[Zacs-Master]

I would but I can’t buy a becent sun cream. Maybe they’ll be available in the panacea were about to have bestowed upon us!

[Zacs-Master]

Torah, of course I care who rules us. The point I’m making is that the EU don’t! No one can give me any examples of how the EU monster blights our lives.