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Khandro | 21:49 Mon 06th Aug 2018 | News
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Lots of 'first times' on here, including the first in this post to sign in on the Koran. Where is Britain heading?

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You mentioned something similar here, ich
https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1611140-3.html

Oopps actually that thread was largely ignored by the same posters venting their spleen on this thread. Other than Gromit, bless him.
I agree that the deep thinkers here are dragging the thread toward the inevitable end-state of "are we going to be murdered in our beds again tonight by brown skinned monsters?"

BUT

AB1 - Why is he (TR) lying then?
Why would he have some spotty upstart represent him and not his own brief? [ blimey money I would have thought]
AB2. If he did not plead guilty and did not have a trial how did he get sentenced?
AB3 ichkeria It’s a mystery Danny :-)
AB4. If you plead not guilty isn’t it worse if the case goes against you?

well none of you open mouthed wonderers have read the appeal judgement have you ?
answers there

https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/r-v-stephen-yaxley-lennon-aka-tommy-robinson/

contempt of court in a sort of special category .....
Ichkeria
It’s a mystery Danny :-)

If you plead not guilty isn’t it worse if the case goes against you?
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You said something similar here, Ich.
https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1611140-3.html

Oopps actually that was me, the thread was largely ignored by the same posters venting their spleen on this thread. Other than Gromit, bless him.
From where do we know that he didn't plead guilty?
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Is it groundhog day?
From him saying so, Krom.

It is a strange thing to lie about, what can he possibly gain from saying it?
Talbot, he probably has some reason for saying it , but all the newspaper reports say he pleaded guilty and I don't think that they could all be wrong.Plus the fact that he apologised for his actions.
//From him saying so, Krom//

Is.. that it?

//It is a strange thing to lie about, what can he possibly gain from saying it? //

Publicity. He's a convicted fraudster with a long history of posing as a victim. He earned plenty through crowdfunding campaigns designed to 'save him'. There's plenty of currency in claiming that you're being persecuted.

Let's have a think. Just how vast and extensive a conspiracy would need to exist in order for *all* the national and local media to report in public that he had pleaded guilty when in fact he hadn't? Doesn't that sound just a little bit loopy?
I'm not saying he is lying a d I'm not saying he is telling the truth.
Surely the truth will come out and if he is found to be lying his credibility (yes, yes I know he hasn't got any...yawn) will be severely damaged.
Well, if there's some compelling evidence that he didn't actually plead guilty then sure, that would be a travesty. I'm not going to get het up about it until there is some though.
And there is this

The appeal judges also found he was sentenced as if he had pleaded guilty, despite it being unclear what he was admitting to, and there had been a “muddle” about the nature of the contempt he faced.

The judges said they were satisfied that the decision at Leeds to proceed to committal to prison “so promptly”, and without “due regard” to rules governing procedures surrounding someone alleged to have acted in contempt of court “gave rise to unfairness”.
Basically when Robinson was taken from the streets of the UK on a trumped up charge (why did they change it if it wasn't trumped up) I expressed the same concerns as Lord Chief Justice Lord Burnet did at TR's appeal.

I was derided for doing so.
I’m mightily confused now :-) (maybe that’s the object of the exercise)
Robinson says he pleaded not guilty and everyone else says he pleaded guilty?
What is the significance of whether he did or not?
There was no trial?
There was a trial?
Does the man even exist?
From ‘BoringLinksAreUs’ Just in case anyone’s interested.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tommy-robinson-arrest/

Some of the comments from Robbo’s US supporters (not at the above link) in particular Roseanne Barr, are quite unbelievable, tho they show how so many Americans, as I said earlier, do not understand our laws on coverage of trials which are different to there.
should we ever have allowed a Muslim Home Secretary in the first place ? First step in the wrong direction, Winston Churchill is turning in his grave.
How is that a fact-check, ich... who has put forward the idea that Robinson was jailed to protect Muslim pedophiles?


It tells you at the link.
However it’s possible to ignore the actual claim and concentrate on the rest of it
Considering that Tommy Robinson was instrumental in exposing the Muslim grooming gangs, perhaps Andrew Norfolk and The Times will think about returning the favour and investigating thoroughly Tommy Robinson’s claims of mistreatment – something that, as far as I can see, no national newspaper has attempted to do. I thought my post at 10:49 Wed might have stirred up a bit of a spirit of justice and fair play, or at least a wish to see justice and fair play, but no – that spirit doesn’t appear to exist within people bent solely on character assassination.

Despite Jim’s protestations the grooming gangs are Muslim – and if you want to know why, Jim, it’s because their religion facilitates abuse of non-Muslim girls. These groups of Pakistanis, rather than doing it individually like the Sudanese rapist currently the subject of a thread in News, or the men, predominately from North Africa who attacked 1000 women in one German city on New Year’s Eve a couple of years ago, or those who are abusing women in Sweden and Holland, just had a bit of a scheme going between them. It really is that simple.

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