Cbi Says Immigration Targets Should Be Scrapped When We Leave The Eu.

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/immigration-targets-should-be-scrapped-post-brexit-says-business-lobby-group_uk_5b6c54f2e4b0530743c7bf70?fmt&utm_hp_ref=uk-homepage

Are they frightened that they will lose access to their cheap labour force?

[Rockrose]

I know you scoff at this but it is a real concern amongst the farming community who struggle to get 'Brits' to do hard manual labour.

[Old_Geezer]

Then the farming community should offer pay that does attract the labour market. The market is supposed to set value isn't it ? Meanwhile the benefit system may need tweaking if folk aren't prepared to provide for themselves when the opportunity is there.

[Rockrose]

Well spath I can only comment on Norfolk - is that where you applied?

[Old_Geezer]

"businesses don’t just need “the brightest and best”, but different skill levels across many different sectors"

Hadn't they better catch up on their training programme then ?

Ian Duncan Smith seems to have the right idea. Nowt wrong with visas, other countries use them.

[Zacs-Master]

'Then the farming community should offer pay that does attract the labour market.'

I think you'd need to talk to the Supermarkets about that as I'm pretty sure it's them who drive wages down as the tighten the screws on farmers to produce food for the minimum of profits.

[Zacs-Master]

'Hadn't they better catch up on their training programme then ?'

You can have all the training programmes you want but if schools aren't producing pupils who have the qualifications or inclination to go into the industry, they're a white Elephant.

[Rockrose]

Exactly - the supermarkets who buy the majority of milk produce pay less a pint than it costs to produce. That is disgusting.

[youngmafbog]

Visa system, that's all that is required. Work force bolstered temporarily where needed with the correct skills.

[Rockrose]

Oh and the fruit and veg farmers in Norfolk pay you the same if you are black white pink or green.

[youngmafbog]

"the supermarkets who buy the majority of milk produce pay less a pint than it costs to produce"

Hmm, I find that hard to believe. Are you telling us the farmers actually pay to come to work day in day out?

[Zacs-Master]

The Visa system was recently responsible for preventing badly need Doctors into the country.

[youngmafbog]

"Oh and the fruit and veg farmers in Norfolk pay you the same if you are black white pink or green."

Or with 3 eyes and a banjo?

[youngmafbog]

"The Visa system was recently responsible for preventing badly need Doctors into the country."

No, the administration of said system was.

[Zacs-Master]

The issuing of Visas is largely an administrational process YMB.

[Rockrose]

You find that hard to believe - have a read here. 31p to produce and they currently receive 24p a litre

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2919280/The-real-price-22p-pint-milk-Cows-never-field-10-000-farmers-business-countryside-changed-ever.html

[youngmafbog]

Ok, the administration of the administration processes is where the faults lie, in other words the dumb humans using the process.

[Zacs-Master]

That's from 2015 Rockrose. But I'm pretty sure they still only make a couple of pence. I think there was an agreement made where they

[anotheoldgit]

Rockrose

/// Oh and the fruit and veg farmers in Norfolk pay you the same if you are black white pink or green. ///

Why bring colour into this?

Those from Eastern Europe are mainly white.

[Zacs-Master]

Correct, YMB. So why are you advocating it as the solution?