This Is Spain Since Pedro Sánchez’S Socialist Party Came To Power In June.

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/14/spains-street-vendors-at-centre-of-immigration-row

[Garaman]

I do wish you wouldn't twist things, Naomi. I haven't said that I am more impressed with the values of the newcomers, and I haven't said I am willing to impose anything upon our descendants.

I appreciate it is hard for you to grasp what others say, but please try again. I am not in favour of all this immigration. However, if say (and once again just to make clear it isn't what I want) Islam does take more of a hold in Britain, would people living here in a few hundred years time view it as a good thing or a bad thing? I don't know the answer to that and I don't think you do either.

[naomi24]

Garaman, I don’t twist things.

//I haven't said that I am more impressed with the values of the newcomers//

I didn’t say you had. I asked you a hypothetical question, and followed that with another. And you say it’s hard for me to grasp what others say? Think again.

//If …Islam does take more of a hold in Britain, would people living here in a few hundred years time view it as a good thing or a bad thing? I don't know the answer to that and I don't think you do either.//

You’re right … I don’t know the answer to that, but I sincerely hope that our self-destructive complacency doesn’t result in our descendants finding out the hard way.

[anotheoldgit]

Who is naive enough to think that the invading hordes of Africa can be beneficial to the Western World?

[naomi24]

Some, it seems, live in futile hope.

[Garaman]

Who is racist enough to think that the children of immigrants can't go on to benefit a country?

[naomi24]

Racist? What are you talking about?

[Garaman]

Africans are a race, Naomi, do try and keep up.

[naomi24]

Garaman, oh, I see. You haven't thought that through. Race isn't the issue. Culture is the stumbling block.

[Zacs-Master]

'Who is naive enough to think that the invading hordes of Africa can be beneficial to the Western World?'

No one I would hope. That doesn't stop your silly comment about the Spanish learning from the Moors invasion being a really poor example.

[Old_Geezer]

In those numbers, individuals might be beneficial most won't be more than a drain on resources, and further crowd out already overpopulated nations. Would be strange thinking to take an area in need of fewer folk and conclude it beneficial to pack more in.