Is The Extreme Left Now The Fascist Right?

[Khandro]

The Southern Poverty Law Centre (SPLC) - Soros funded- has allegedly convinced both Visa and Mastercard that David Horowitz's Freedom Center is a "Hate group". When they do nothing more (and I always get their newsletter) than report corroborated facts.
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/08/23/david-horowitz-visa-mastercard-cut-off-payments-to-my-think-tank-based-on-splc-hate-group-label/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_term=daily&utm_content=links&utm_campaign=20180823

[youngmafbog]

"What I'm implying in the OP, is that the so-called anti-fascist movements (Antifa) are in fact the most fascist and dangerous grouping in today's political world."

You are totally right Khandro. The reason for this is that is an extreme right party behave like them they are banned, but for some reason no action is taken against this ultra left group, yet they are just as bad, if not worse sometimes.

I often wonder why.

[Zacs-Master]

Ah, yes, horseshoe theory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horseshoe_theory

[dannyk13]

//for some reason no action is taken against this ultra left group//
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/qve8zm/how-british-police-shut-down-the-original-uk-antifa

[ichkeria]

Why not just post the question then ‘Is Antifa as bad as the people it protests against?’ and leave out the unsubstantiated Breitbart story which doesn’t seem to be anything to do with Antifa.
‘Is George Soros also a victim (as well as a survivor) of anti Semitism?’ might be another related question tho :-)

[youngmafbog]

Nearly 10 years ago Danny and clearly didnt do a very good job.

Nothing done since though.

[Kromovaracun]

Antifa are definitely an extremist organisation who are very destructive and dangerous, yes.

What does this have to do with SPLC or the Horowitz story you asked about?

[jackthehat]

I didn't see the links, pumpjack, but if they linked to videos full of 'strong' language that could be a reason for them having been removed.

I think I'll wait for news reports from more reputable organs than breitbart before making my mind up on the SPLC/Visa/Mastercard issue.

[Khandro]

The SPLC is a once-storied organization that did important work filing civil rights lawsuits against the Ku Klux Klan in the 1970s. But it has become a caricature of itself, labeling virtually anyone who does not fall in line with its left-wing ideology an “extremist” or “hate group.”

Taken from;
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-southern-poverty-law-center-has-lost-all-credibility/2018/06/21/22ab7d60-756d-11e8-9780-b1dd6a09b549_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.976a04ee3d17

[Togo]

I wonder if Mastercard or Visa ever considered disrupting the donations it processed for ……..say Oxfam? After all were they not guilty of facilitating sexual offenders and paedophiles on a Global scale, and indeed attempting to cover up the hateful behaviour of their staff.

[Buenchico]

The Center for American Progress is, like the SPLC, another organisation that has no time for Horowitz's Islamophobia:
https://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/issues/2011/08/pdf/islamophobia.pdf

[Khandro]

Buenchico; beware of what links you put up.

[Ellipsis]

So the accountability for Visa and Mastercard refusing the Freedom Center as a client falls not on Visa and Mastercard but on the SPLC, does it?

No. These are big grown-up companies who can make their own choices, and do, frequently. But pointing out that it was their choice wouldn't give such a good opportunity for a rant, would it? So let's make it about SPLC instead, and then we can get on our hobby-horses ...

[Kromovaracun]

//So the accountability for Visa and Mastercard refusing the Freedom Center as a client falls not on Visa and Mastercard but on the SPLC, does it?//

It was written in the newsletter! It must be true!

[Khandro]

Ellipsis; I'm sorry you are having such a struggle to grasp the concept of the OP, allow me to explain;
It is about taking a specific example - in this case of known ultra left group of thought police (see 13:57 above) and seeing if one can extrapolate from that one individual case, to find an underlying principle, i.e. neo-fascism, - the very thing they claim to be attacking.

It's really a standard scientific method of research, not unlike say, Darwin's discovering evolution by considering tortoises!

[Kromovaracun]

But... there's no evidence that SPLC had anything to do with it.

[Ellipsis]

Khandro, I fully grasp the concept of the OP, thanks. It's to create the opportunity to post lots of far-right YouTube links, isn't it? :D

What you don't seem to grasp is that the true "oppressors" are Visa and Mastercard, not those who have "allegedly convinced" them. The SPLC will do what they do, much like David Horowitz's Freedom Center, but the action that concerns you and others so much has been taken by Visa and Mastercard, not the SPLC.

[Khandro]

"They [The extreme Left, including the SPLC] love corporations when they have control of them. They have worked hard to get fascist CEOs into positions of power. In fact, the CEO of MasterCard is a former general from India. He was an Obama appointee, but is now the CEO of an incredibly powerful American credit card monopoly. He is a Sikh, and he has no loyalty to America or American values. That is how Obama helped set up the rolling economic/political coup.

The CEO of Visa, Alfred Kelly, seems at first blush to be a typical business man until you search his interests and find out he is a board member of Concern Worldwide USA, which is run by someone who has deep ties to the UN and The Open Society Foundation and George Soros."

[ichkeria]

Deep ties to the UN, eh?

Sinister or what lol

[youngmafbog]

"Sinister or what lol"

lol all you like, but at present there are some vey sinister things going on funded by rich people (left and right). It is not a joke and certainly not democracy.