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So Does Drill Music Actually Promote Violence.?

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webbo3 | 19:11 Fri 12th Oct 2018 | News
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45824358

\\When police searched his room, they found a sword, knives, four cheap mobile phones, wraps of heroin and crack cocaine and £480 in cash. There was also a Silwood Nation t-shirt.//

\\Drill music often features rappers talking about violence and can be used to fuel rivalries between gangs, leading critics to link it to crime.//

\\Olaloko's family described him as a quiet, studious boy. He auditioned for the X Factor talent show in 2016 but failed to make the TV auditions.

Instead, he focused on drill music, rapping about drugs, money, violence and sex in his videos.//

All I read through the report was, drugs, knives, sex and violence.
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A. I agree with douglas. B. In answer to the question posed in the OP: Undoubtedly and unashamedly.
08:13 Sat 13th Oct 2018
webbo - // How many gang members go to the theater to watch shakespeare //

Probably about the same number as EDL Members!

The point I am making is that the art does not 'promote' violence, or indeed any action - that is far too simplistic an approach in my opinion.

People act the way they do for a vast variety of seriously complex individual ways based on influenced such as family, genes, personality, background, peer group, and so on and so on.


To simply isolate one form of music, and infer that it 'promotes' a ceretain type of behaviour is complete nonsense.

As I pointed out on another thread -

Lyle Menedez
Michael Rossi
Amy Bishop
William Bradford Bishop
Jason Booth

All white, all students of pretigious American universities, and all convicted murderers.

But no-one links their ethnicity and their higher education qualifications to their crimes - obviously, but in isolation, those factors are not the cause of their crimes - life is just not that simple.
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So, you're claiming that black people are innately violent, andy?
The colour of ones skin has nothing to do with the violence we are discussing.
It is the culture that has emerged in black communities aided and abetted by the likes of Diane Abbot who subscribe to the revolt against British culture on an industrial scale, insisting there is racism where often there is none.
Maybe SP buys into this, talking about white supremacy, because he too is black. A bit confused in his thinking I believe.
Re the main topic - there have been some good responses, however Talbot at lunchtime summed it up best for me.

//Maybe it is better to say it glorifies violence rather than promotes it.
The violence and the drugs were there before drill music.//
Watch out there's a stalker about.
He knows I stalk him and nick all his best answers ;-)
Is it racist to admit that I consider myself superior to these two pond life?
My garden slugs are superior to these two things.
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\\webbo - // How many gang members go to the theater to watch shakespeare //

Probably about the same number as EDL Members! //

edl, why bring edl into this, this about a certain type of black music that glorifies violence and drugs, stop trying to change the subject, as i pointed out lots of black musicians have manged to have brilliant careers without singing about and glorifying violence and drugs.
AH cannot resist any opportunity to bring in Tommy and /or EDL.
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Sorry SP, it was Andy Hughes that brought the EDL into the conversation.
// Commandit molaribus suis ut non eum interficeret omnis populus, qui occidunt//

yikes they grind their gums that the people did not kill all of them who they kill

yikes again - is this classical - you have a imperf subj following a a present indicative and then a final indicative in a clause with a subjunctive antecednet - oh and ut non should be ne

no sequence of tenses as I learnt it
We all knew that, peter. jeez.
Spicerack - // So, you're claiming that black people are innately violent, andy? //

If anyone wants a textbook definition of the So Rule - here it is!!
webbo 3 - // edl, why bring edl into this, this about a certain type of black music that glorifies violence and drugs, stop trying to change the subject, //

Because it underlines the futility of your point - black gang members are unlikely to be theatre goers - but then, so are white gang members, which is the point I am making.

I am not trying to change the subject, merely illustrating that your point is incorrect in my view.
AOG - // Is it racist to admit that I consider myself superior to these two pond life? //

Only if you follow it up by saying that your superiority is based on your ethnicity, and their inferiority is based on theirs.
SparklyKid - // AH cannot resist any opportunity to bring in Tommy and /or EDL. //

I can - I assure you I can!
Is it me or does PP @ 16:57 sound like an old Monty Python sketch.
andy-hughes Spicerack - // So, you're claiming that black people are innately violent, andy? //

'If anyone wants a textbook definition of the So Rule - here it is!!'

Yay, thanks, andy.

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