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How can equal pay be agreed if the men and women are doing different jobs? Surely it's only cut and dried if they are doing the same job. Otherwise it's just a grey area.
How can equal pay be agreed if the men and women are doing different jobs? Surely it's only cut and dried if they are doing the same job. Otherwise it's just a grey area.
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have you read this bit, for example, spath
What are the roots of the dispute?
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Glasgow City Council has committed to making an offer to workers in December
The problems arose from an earlier attempt to eliminate gender pay inequality. In 2006 Glasgow City Council adopted a job evaluation scheme with the aim of ensuring that men and women received equal pay for jobs of the same value.
While most local authorities adopted the "red book" scheme, Glasgow opted for a bespoke solution called the Workforce Pay and Benefits Review (WPBR) scheme.
There are two main problems with this:
It included a three-year payment protection arrangement for men who lost out on bonuses as a result of the changes - but the provision was not extended to women.
The design of the WPBR scheme itself. Staff contracted for more than 37 hours, for instance, qualified for extra payments. While women made up 70% of the council workforce, the vast majority worked fewer than 35 hours.
Campaigners say workers in traditionally female-dominated roles such as catering or home care were paid up to £3 an hour less than those in male-dominated jobs such as refuse workers or grave diggers.
In 2017, two judgements at the Court of Session ruled that both the payment protection scheme and the WPBR discriminated against women workers.
What are the roots of the dispute?
Image copyrightGETTY IMAGES
Image caption
Glasgow City Council has committed to making an offer to workers in December
The problems arose from an earlier attempt to eliminate gender pay inequality. In 2006 Glasgow City Council adopted a job evaluation scheme with the aim of ensuring that men and women received equal pay for jobs of the same value.
While most local authorities adopted the "red book" scheme, Glasgow opted for a bespoke solution called the Workforce Pay and Benefits Review (WPBR) scheme.
There are two main problems with this:
It included a three-year payment protection arrangement for men who lost out on bonuses as a result of the changes - but the provision was not extended to women.
The design of the WPBR scheme itself. Staff contracted for more than 37 hours, for instance, qualified for extra payments. While women made up 70% of the council workforce, the vast majority worked fewer than 35 hours.
Campaigners say workers in traditionally female-dominated roles such as catering or home care were paid up to £3 an hour less than those in male-dominated jobs such as refuse workers or grave diggers.
In 2017, two judgements at the Court of Session ruled that both the payment protection scheme and the WPBR discriminated against women workers.
woofgang// Oh for goodness sake....is this the annual meeting of the hard of thinking here? Its not difficult to analyse jobs and equate them...and is it any surprise that the people, who don't seem to be able to get hold of this concept, self identify on here as male?//
If it is, you're the spokesperson.
'Ooo, look at me, I'm so clever I can evaluate every job, despite not doing any of them, and put menial people in their little boxes'
It's people like you enabled Leeds City Council to drop the wages of dustbin-men down to the level of dinner-ladies. And when they didn't like it, replace them with (foreign) agency workers.
If it is, you're the spokesperson.
'Ooo, look at me, I'm so clever I can evaluate every job, despite not doing any of them, and put menial people in their little boxes'
It's people like you enabled Leeds City Council to drop the wages of dustbin-men down to the level of dinner-ladies. And when they didn't like it, replace them with (foreign) agency workers.
someone mentioned bin men just wheel the bin to lorry, mm not where i live, they walk along side waste lorry picking up black bags and recycle bags, sometimes they walk ahead of the lorry and collect all the bags to one pickup point, where and when they can, some really heavy bag lifting and walking, for what eight hours a day in all weathers.. just saying
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