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anotheoldgit | 10:51 Wed 07th Nov 2018 | News
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While Britain's press goes hysterical over the sick drunken pranks of a few bonfire night idiots, even to naming and publishing their photographs, before they have been found guilty of an offence not yet found, London has seen it's 5th knife deaths in 6 days, making it the 119th killing this year, seems to be of lesser concern.

/// It was the capital’s fifth knife death in six days and 119th killing this year
Police logged a record 39,332 knife offences nationwide in the half year to June ///

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6360909/Removals-boss-teacher-partner-built-Grenfell-Tower-effigy-mocking-72-killed-win-contest.html
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When someone hands themselves in then the Police have enough information to act if needed, I shouldn't think that happens often after a stabbing sadly.

Knife crime is hugely important and of course more so than this act by these idiots but we don't choose the running order of the press and media.

Well there have been bare police cuts due to austerity hasn't there.... It's odd i've never seen that connected to increased knife crime.
AOG - // Inferring and actually calling you stupid are two different matters.

/// deduce or conclude (something) from evidence and reasoning rather than from explicit statements. ///

I am going to print that out and paste it on the wall above my computer - I am sure that you and appropriate others can do the same, for future reference purposes.
Spath
It is not because of police cuts or lack of police response.13,056 were arrested for knife crime over the past 3 years . Nearly 5000 are repeat offenders and should of been banged up under the two strikes rule
So a lack of policing isn't the issue?

There is strength in numbers.
spathiphyllum //Well there have been bare police cuts due to austerity hasn't there.... It's odd i've never seen that connected to increased knife crime.//

Lol. You were joking, right?
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andy-hughes

/// AOG - History on the section shows that you show considerable interest and concern in what you rather unfortunately term 'black on black' violence. ///

This is why many including yourself it would seem, shy away from what is taking place on our streets.

Why do you state that it is unfortunate that I term it, 'black on black' violence, because that is precisely what it is and this is why the media or the police seem reluctant to tell it how it is.

Only on a radio talk-in last night a caller phoned in and asked why the black community was not demanding action, well the radio presenter nearly chocked and repeatedly asked the caller, "why do you call it the black community"? It would seem from this that one dare not mention the word black these days.

/// However, comparing one situation with another in the hope that an appropriate comparison can be made is futile. ///

Only in your eyes it would seem, the whole point of my thread is asking why there is a different approach between the two, a quite appropriate question to ask.
Spath
Not for want of trying. Allegedly we can't afford to lock em' up.
Keep Calm and let them Carry On eh?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6360601/Four-ten-criminals-caught-repeatedly-knives-avoid-jail.html
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Mamyalynne
/// Knife crime is hugely important and of course more so than this act by these idiots but we don't choose the running order of the press and media. ///

And it would seem AnswerBank, I say this because it doesn't seem that our Left leaning ABers rush to enter a thread commenting on this very serious situation which is making our streets less safe to be on.

Funny though they come out in force to try and 'shoot' the messenger.

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Seems strange also that if these black family's young were being killed by the police or anyone white they would be protesting on the streets in force, and quite rightly so, so why the silence from the black community now?
"less safe to be on."

Less safe than what / when ?
AOG - // andy-hughes

/// AOG - History on the section shows that you show considerable interest and concern in what you rather unfortunately term 'black on black' violence. ///

This is why many including yourself it would seem, shy away from what is taking place on our streets. //

I don't 'shy away' from anything - please don't equate my absence of your obsession with race and religion, which you exhibit on here on a daily basis, with a lack of either interest or concern.

// Why do you state that it is unfortunate that I term it, 'black on black' violence, because that is precisely what it is and this is why the media or the police seem reluctant to tell it how it is. //

Because I believe it to be a media-created inappropriate label that seeks to put crimes into neat boxes based on race alone, ignoring the myriad other factors involved.

// Only on a radio talk-in last night a caller phoned in and asked why the black community was not demanding action, well the radio presenter nearly chocked and repeatedly asked the caller, "why do you call it the black community"? It would seem from this that one dare not mention the word black these days. //

Mentioning the word 'black' is fine - using it to define a sub-species of society and then routinely lay the ills of society at its door, is not.

/// However, comparing one situation with another in the hope that an appropriate comparison can be made is futile. ///

// Only in your eyes it would seem, the whole point of my thread is asking why there is a different approach between the two, a quite appropriate question to ask. //

Not judging my some of the responses you have received, and appear willing to ignore.

You asked a question, I gave you a considered response - if you don't like it, that's fine, but delving into the minutia of what I posted in order to pick fault is not going to repudiate the truth of what I said.
this very serious situation which is making our streets less safe to be on.



Some folks running along streets stabbing others. Seems easy to understand.
AOG - // Funny though they come out in force to try and 'shoot' the messenger. //

More funny is how the 'messenger' can switch from avenging social injustice covering avenger to meek victim looking for sympathy, when he doesn't receive responses that chime with his views.
I can't comment for any other AB Member, for my own part I answer if I feel I have something to say and try to keep it brief.

I don't do hysterics nor 'shooting' messengers.

I don't understand foreign politics or even politics much at all.
Some interesting stuff from wiki and the like.
Figures from the Office for National Statistics showed that in 2007 an estimated 10.6 percent of London's population of 7,556,900 were black.[25] Evidence shows that the black population in London boroughs increases with the level of deprivation, and that the level of crime also increases with deprivation, such that "It is clear that ethnicity, deprivation, victimisation and offending are closely and intricately inter-related".[26]
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spathiphyllum

/// Less safe than what / when ? ///

Than the days when there were not the vast numbers of stabbings and drive by shootings on our streets, that we are experiencing now.
In 2003 Lee Jasper, a race advisor to the London mayor, said drugs and gun crime were the "biggest threat to the black community since its arrival here".[4]

In 2007, after a series of murders committed by black people, prime minister Tony Blair attributed them to a distinctive black culture: "the black community (...) need to be mobilised in denunciation of this gang culture that is killing innocent young black kids. But we won't stop this by pretending it isn't young black kids doing it."[5] Some from the black community criticised his remarks.[6]
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andy-hughes

/// please don't equate my absence of your obsession with race and religion, which you exhibit on here on a daily basis, with a lack of either interest or
concern. ///

Go on say it, you know you are dying to outwardly call me a 'racist' or any other insulting words you lefties are so keen on using. Neither is there any proof that I have an obsession with race and religion, which according to you I exhibit on here on a daily basis.

/// Because I believe it to be a media-created inappropriate label that seeks to put crimes into neat boxes based on race alone, ignoring the myriad other factors involved. ///

According to this then, it would also be inappropriate to put into boxes and label other crimes carried out by 'Far-Right' groups while also ignoring the myriad other factors involved?

/// Mentioning the word 'black' is fine - using it to define a sub-species of society and then routinely lay the ills of society at its door, is not. ///

Oh dear "a sub-species of society" how racist is that when one is talking about the Black community?

/// but delving into the minutia of what I posted in order to pick fault is not going to repudiate the truth of what I said. ///

Perhaps you should first learn to practice what you preach before preaching to others.
"Than the days when there were not the vast numbers of stabbings and drive by shootings on our streets, that we are experiencing now."

Give me a date. I feel i can easily walk the streets of the capital without being stabbed or shot in a drive by in todays date. So when was it better?

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