Another Brexit Vote Required, Or You May Lose Scotland From The U.k.

[Bravehearted]

Now that all the lies spun to the UK by Boris and Gove etc etc., have come back to bite the Brexit numpties in England, let’s see it they have the sense to have another vote. If we leave, just wait until next year and when you try to enter an EEC Immigration point. We’re doomed I tells ya!

[ToraToraTora]

If you want to leave the UK do. Why not have a referendum?

[ToraToraTora]

I take it that, as the 17.2m people who voted brexit are all "numpties" you are a remainer. Odd then that you seem to want to leave the UK yet stay in the EUSSR. So it seems that you don't want independence, just different dependence. Do you think that leaving the UK will leave Scotland, in the EUSSR? If so you are deluded me old china.

[david small]

17.4 million.

[Old_Geezer]

The only things that have come back to bite are having a remainer PM in charge, and the fuss remoaners have made causing the EU to be confident they have no need to give anything, as the British public are failing to agree and come together even after a vote. But that's remoaners for you.

There is no sense in yet a further vote, as has been pointed out many times. We have had a vote and are therefore leaving. The government is suppose to sort the details, not fail and ask what to do. We can check the public view again in a couple of decades time and we can see what rumours failed to prove correct.

[jim360]

Keep blaming everyone else if you must, be at some point you ought to take ownership of the decision you supported, run by the government you voted for, with the politicians you elected in charge. Own your decision, rather than seek excuses for why it was always a bad idea.

[Old_Geezer]

The decision one is overjoyed to take responsibility for. One just wish that others would take their responsibility for the chaos they caused, which has resulted in the problems we now have.

[jim360]

The decision had these consequences almost inevitably -- or, certainly, it did as long as those people most keen on the idea were also those most in a hurry to distance themselves from any responsibility for carrying it out.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//Keep blaming everyone else if you must, be at some point you ought to take ownership of the decision you supported, run by the government you voted for, with the politicians you elected in charge. Own your decision, rather than seek excuses for why it was always a bad idea//

I feel a Basil Fawlty moment coming on: "Oh dear, it's all my fault. Oh, silly me..."; bangs head against wall. (This for those who remember).

The electorate is not the executive, Jim.

And, personally, being a conservative, I've never betrayed my principles by voting Tory, not even when Margaret of blessed memory Thatcher was in power.

[Peter Pedant]

There is no such thing as too many brexit threads

( gloss on AH - there is not such thing as too much Wagner)

[Peter Pedant]

well done v-e for keeping your voting credentials - pure
I voted for Tony Bliar once - 1997
some people you know can say - I will change the world and like a bl--dy fool I believed him

he certainly changed Shreez bank balance - positive £50m they say

[vetuste_ennemi]

//he certainly changed Shreez bank balance - positive £50m they say//

A venial sin compared with the mortal sin of transforming the demographic of all our major towns and cities careless of social consequences. (Cue "killed in our beds/lock up your daughters" sneers).

Quoting Tiberius Gracchus (played by VE thespian hero Charles Laughton) in the film "Spartacus" on Crassus' (LO) play for the dictatorship: "better a bit of old-fashioned republican corruption than..."

But I can't remember the rest of the line.

[vetuste_ennemi]

but ambitio would probably have been there somewhere.

[cassa333]

I own the decision to leave. I’m happy with that decision.

I blame remainers in government and interfering remainers for the mess we are in.

If we get out we can sort out the remainers mess. All the while we remain or BRINO the mess will continue.

The status quo was never going to remain and any remainer who harbours the infantile idea that it would have or will do if we remain now is totally devoid of common sense.

[Jackdaw33]

Referring back to the OP, if the UK lose Scotland I, for one, will shed no tears.

[emmie]

so we are all numpties, thanks a lot. I don;t want the break up of the UK and it doesn't have to be that way does it. If Ms Sturgeon goes to the people now i wonder if they want Independence.

[Kromovaracun]

Brexit has alway posed some degree of threat to the integrity of the United Kingdom - the harder the Brexit, the higher the threat. This was another observation by so-called 'project fear' before the 2016 referendum that is now looking to be fairly accurate. I imagine this is why the SNP leadership have not been making any headlines recently - they are very likely going to use the unpopularity of this situation to argue for another independence vote.

It's hard to imagine a lot of (feasible) things that could make Brexit worse, but I think the double-whammy of leaving the EU alongside the disintegration of the Union is probably on the list.

[-Talbot-]

What is it about remainers and links...the lack of?

[jim360]

All the links go towards maintaining the chains we use to shackle ourselves to the EU for all eternity.

[-Talbot-]

We’re doomed I tells ya!


Bravehearted


lol

[douglas9401]

The First Miniature and her unwashed rabble have already had their answer re independence.
Scotland is here for the long haul, even at the price of having to put up with Little Englanders chunterring on like a broken record.