Why Has Brexit Become Party Political

[NellieMay]

The referendum was not party political. Why were all the meetings, etc not conducted by a team of brexeteers who were the most competent and chosen from all parties. There could then have been a parliamentary vote for approval, and the strongest member of the team could lead the negotiaions with Brussels. Would this not have been fairer and more likely to be successful? Is this too simple?

Sorry if this is not in the right section. I usually avoid politics! But the present state of affairs would be laughable if it wasn't so serious!

[Kromovaracun]

//The Tories had a good majority but threw it away by calling a snap election. //


That too.

It's probably worth remembering that the 2017 was a naked power grab in which the Tories were plainly hoping to exploit the political situation to devastate Labour and got a nasty surprise when they didn't. In fairness to Corbyn (of whom I am no fan), it's easy to see why he would be reluctant to co-operate in that circumstance.

[NellieMay]

Agreed ttt. Best answer for giving me a laugh!

[Zacs-Master]

I'm afraid nellie's post typifies the naivety of the general public. To expect politicians not to make brexit a political football is extremely blinkered and belies a misunderstanding of the way the country is governed. I'm not saying it's right but its how things have been since Parliament began.

[Kromovaracun]

In fairness there is precedent for a national government in peacetime. Was always going to be extremely unlikely in the current situation though.

[Kromovaracun]

Oh do shut up 3T.

[Zacs-Master]

Yeah, give it a rest Tora.

[ToraToraTora]

Touched a nerve did I? Don't worry the ed will probably sensor it.

[Kromovaracun]

You've been pumping out these invidious troll comments for at least a year now, 3T, and it has yet to be helpful or interesting.

[Zacs-Master]

or accurate.

[ichkeria]

I see you’ve decided to go for laughs after all :-)

It was a fair question and one Keir Starmer asked as well. However it is while a fair question also a naive one.

[derekpara]

Naive the question may be, but a very good one none the less - and one I have oft pondered about.

The trouble is, it would take a group of morally honest politicians to deal with it properly - and I don't think there would be enough of that rare breed.

D.

[NellieMay]

It was a naïve sort of question intentially. I am not naïve, even though I am a member of the naïve British Public!! I admit to voting for Brexit and it wasn't because I was naïve and believed all the hype - far from it. The reasons I voted for Brexit are quite valid as far as I am concerned, not what I have read or heard from the media. The EU now has confirmed what I think and I feel my choice was right. I am just frustrated now that we are likely to leave and still be beholden and controlled by the EU in many respects.

[ToraToraTora]

"morally honest politicians" - stop it!

[ichkeria]

I think what you are getting at is that it’s not “party political” because there are Brexiters both main parties? But equally there are remainers in both parties too, especially Labour, where there are very few “hard Brexiters” of the likes of JRM. That’s why had their been such a cross party approach you’d not have got anything greatly unlike what we already have, despite what Keir Starmer can easily claim now.

[derekpara]

Nellie, I meant 'naive' in the nicest way, not as a criticism. ie, to assume most politicians were ' morally honest.'

I am a Brexiteer too, thanks to Tony Blair's open door policy for unchecked, mass immigration. Properly controlled immigration, yes;
uncontrolled, no.

[NellieMay]

I know Derek. My remark was directed at Zacsmaster, who was quite rude to me in his posts. I should have made that clear. Nice to meet you. I still have a glimmer of hope that a miracle might happen and a proper Brexit will go ahead. May has been very weak. I think we did need a Farage.

[derekpara]

Hear, hear.

Nice to meet you, too !

D

[Theland]

I fear we will stay in or half in, to be ruled by unelected bureaucrats. I wonder how many millions are being spent behind the scenes by the EU and the likes of Soros and the Bliar Foundation etc to swing the great unwashed to remaining?