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Why do you think that?
If the police are considering it I guess it must be.
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naomi24

/// If the police are considering it I guess it must be. ///

I am only asking other ABer's opinions regarding it.
Unless the gang members are armed, I can't see how arming the police will be effective.
Now now, ano the old git, naomi24 is on your side! Stop having a go at her.
Yes. Most definitely. The days of Dixon of Dock Green are over. Providing the Met can get officers who are prepared to train and use lethal force then they should be given the tools to do the job. Not many,I wager on AB would run forward and tackle that crazed youth in Croydon with his zombie knife. No that's a job for the police!!!
We want no more Keith Blakelocks sacrificed on the altar of Political correctness. The Mehad Tear Gas ready for use during the Broadwater Farm Estate riots but no senior officer had the cajones to apply to the H.O. for it's deployment.
I wish a passing ARV had seen matey with his Zombie knife attacking a driver in a fit of frenzy. If ever there were justifiction to take the low life out. That was it.
Blimey retro, you really are a bit of a liberal, aren't you.
Retro, unless things have changed armed police are only able to discharge their weapons if fired upon.
aog, if you want my opinion, okay. If the police deem it necessary, I have no complaints. If people perpetrating acts of violence come unstuck in the process, so be it.
Just like to fight crime on a level playing field rather than seeing young men and women led like lambs to the slaughter.What should of been at least a 10 year sentence and he walks off laughing at the judiciary. Second knife offence as well..
danny,
Things have changed. I was an Authorised Firearms Officer for 15 years and the rules of engagement are that lethal force is allowed if one's own life is threatened or the person you are protecting's life is threatened. It also includes any person who's life is threatened by lethal forced.
I believe that law is enshrined in the ECJ ruling.
Yes. The bloke with that huge knife should have been shot dead.
danny,
'threatened with lethal force' does not just mean fired upon. Any article,obviously including bladed weapons, that can cause fatal injury.
Danny
//The decision to shoot is the officer’s alone. They are legally responsible for each and every shot they decide to fire. For the shots to be legal, they must show they were acting in the defence of themselves or others and that their actions were proportionate. Section three of the 1967 Criminal Law Act reads: “A person may use such force as is reasonable in the prevention of crime.”


If an officer honestly believes someone poses a threat to their life, or to the life of others, reasonable force may be used.

Do police shoot to kill or wound?

The official policy says firearms officers “shoot to incapacitate”. They are trained to target the centre of the chest as the quickest way to “neutralise” a suspect, even though it is highly likely that this will kill.


The idea that officers will shoot to wound is dismissed because it is felt that it places the public and officers in too much danger.

Concerns about marauding terrorist attackers mean officers have been told they may need to shoot a terrorist suspect in the head because they may be wearing body armour.

The law on self defence can be controversial, especially as it does not mean an officer has to be correct in assessing the level of danger. //
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Perhaps when one of these killers are taken down, then perhaps their community will sit up and take notice, but then I doubt it, they will obviously blame the police for killing one of their own 'academically gifted' youngsters.
Retro, unless a man armed with a knife is within striking distance could you justify killing him?
No. It would be a step to arming all, and guns becoming commonplace. Armed police must be a call for special situations only or we will slip into becoming an uncivilized society.
I doubt it danny if not in striking distance of one'self however, unfortunately, the video of that youth with the zombie knife does not show him successfully smashing the nearside FP window and lunging at the driver. If after appropriate warning he would be fair target to use lethal force. He was threatening the driver with a lethal weapon and had the ability to kill him if it wasn't for the driver legging it pronto from his door.
Armed police must be a call for special situations only or we will slip into becoming an uncivilized society.
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So all these stabbings in London and Birmingham, combined with knife crime rising by 25% in some areas is deemed civil?
Plus, with a flagrant disregard for the law I guess it must be sweetness and light everywhere else!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-tyne-46398018/stanley-town-centre-mob-of-youths-attacks-officers

//Armed police must be a call for special situations only or we will slip into becoming an uncivilized society.//

London has become a special situation. Too late. How many more black on black knife killings do you deem it necessary before you consider we have become an uncivilised society?

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