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[emmie]

this smacks of desperation, or is it just the way politics runs in UK

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46394431

[Zacs-Master]

Why does it smack of desperation? what would you rather she did?

[spathiphyllum]

I agree emmie, the reason i think it smacks of desperation is she's so desperate for them to accept that deal, she'd rather them consider a no deal than anything else which no one wants.She is the only one game for her own deal.

[spathiphyllum]

I mean.. how on earth can this be "the only possible deal"... Tripe imo.

[ichkeria]

It’s the only possible deal because the EU are not giungbtge go through this whole palaver again just because we don’t know what the hell we want. There might be some tweaks. But basically that’s it.
Where there IS scope for manoeuvre of course is on the post-Brexit treaty. That’s why just now not only is the EU considering extending the deadline from March to July should it be needed, but is also considering the EFTA “Norway plus plus” option. (Shame the Albanian model is no longer on the agenda!)

[sevenOP]

^^ TINA mentality. There are alternatives .

May's refusal to answer has even more venom in her eyes than this one:
https://twitter.com/EL4JC/status/1068073287417294848

[Old_Geezer]

One would rather she acted ethically and ruled out asking folk to vote again, EU style, if she didn't get the result she wanted.

The EU knows exactly what we want. That excuse didn't convince at the start, nor since.

It's the only deal because the EU doesn't want to be decent nor reasonable but to be as difficult and domineering as they can. Their nose has been put out of joint by us having the audacity to leave their fiefdom and they're striking back, regardless of the needs of it's member states, encouraged by the dissent from some of the UK public.

[emmie]

they don't seem to like us very much do they, and she is playing right into their hands, what a crock

[douglas9401]

Strong and stable. :-)

[gulliver1]

Brexit, in the words of Kenneth Wolstenholme" They think it's all over"
But in reality it is not,

[gulliver1]

If MPs can have a second vote ,then so can the public . Bring it on.

[ToraToraTora]

zm: "Why does it smack of desperation? what would you rather she did? " - tell the EUSSR to shove it, cancel the DD and leave like we should have done on June 17th 2016.

[Zacs-Master]

Yeah, we’re all familiar with your ‘tap room at the Dog & Duck’ logic, Tora.

[emmie]

i tend to agree with TTT, Mrs May seems to think that the more times she presses home the message this deal, this deal or else then she may get her way. I hope she doesn;t get her way, that the deal is thrown out and we can all
breathe again...

[gulliver1]

I did it May Way.

[cassa333]

That’s the remain and EU way isn’t it. Keep going till you get the answer you want.

Wear the people down enough and they get fed up enough to not bother to vote at all and the answer you want comes by default. Not a fare vote at all.

[mushroom25]

//If MPs can have a second vote ,then so can the public . Bring it on. //

the house votes on 11th December. the earliest a (second)referendum could be arranged is 22 weeks from the start of the process, say 12th December. thus referendum day would be 15th April, which is, umm, nearly a month after exit day.

arrange these words into a popular saying:- bolted. door. horse. stable. shut.

[gulliver1]

Arrange these words into a popular saying. Hatched , count , Don't, your, chickens, before, are, they.

[emmie]

well we know on December 11th one way or another.

[mushroom25]

//Arrange these words into a popular saying. Hatched , count , Don't, your, chickens, before, are, they. //

it doesn't matter whether you count eggs, or chickens. a referendum needs an act of parliament, and the shortest possible time to enact that (disregarding parliamentary recesses, etc) is 22 weeks. thus no referendum will happen before 29th march. moving exit day requires unanimous agreement of all 27 EU members. the EU has said there will be no more negotiation. Jeremy Corbyn is a Eurosceptic and will not overturn the result of the 2016 referendum, even if he had the power to do so.

chickens? eggs? doesn't matter. there is no time for a second referendum.

[Zacs-Master]

Seems to be working, cassa.