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When it was British Rail many staff had a "couldn't care less" attitude whereas at least staff now show some interest. I remember years ago (when still British Rail) when I was in Whitley Bay on a bank holiday Monday and there were only trains every 2 hours. I got on the platform a few minutes before the train was due in but it never arrived. I had to wait two hours for...
09:37 Fri 07th Dec 2018
When it was British Rail many staff had a "couldn't care less" attitude whereas at least staff now show some interest.
I remember years ago (when still British Rail) when I was in Whitley Bay on a bank holiday Monday and there were only trains every 2 hours.
I got on the platform a few minutes before the train was due in but it never arrived.
I had to wait two hours for the next train, and when I got on it I spoke to the ticket inspector about the last train that had not arrived and he said when we don't have many passengers we don't wait so we often get "ahead" of the timetable.
So the previous train HAD gone through, but a few minutes early, so I missed it.
When I had a bit of a moan to him about this he just shrugged his shoulders as if to say "do I care" and turned round and walked off.
That disinterest of the staff has annoyed me for years and when people like Corbyn talk about re-nationlising the railways again I get so angry.
I know it is not perfect now but the trains are (mostly) newer and cleaner, the food is better, the stations are better, the staff are better, and more people are using the trains than ever.
Lets not go back to the bad old days of 70s Britian.
I remember years ago (when still British Rail) when I was in Whitley Bay on a bank holiday Monday and there were only trains every 2 hours.
I got on the platform a few minutes before the train was due in but it never arrived.
I had to wait two hours for the next train, and when I got on it I spoke to the ticket inspector about the last train that had not arrived and he said when we don't have many passengers we don't wait so we often get "ahead" of the timetable.
So the previous train HAD gone through, but a few minutes early, so I missed it.
When I had a bit of a moan to him about this he just shrugged his shoulders as if to say "do I care" and turned round and walked off.
That disinterest of the staff has annoyed me for years and when people like Corbyn talk about re-nationlising the railways again I get so angry.
I know it is not perfect now but the trains are (mostly) newer and cleaner, the food is better, the stations are better, the staff are better, and more people are using the trains than ever.
Lets not go back to the bad old days of 70s Britian.
i do remember the bad old days, cancelled or non existent trains, poor ventilation, drafty carriages, doors that never seemed to fit properly, and a somewhat don't care attitude amongst the staff. I don't commute and the last time i was on a train was last year, and it was out of the rush hour, so i got a seat, something many don't get now.
now I know I'm going to sound like a communist here but yes, the railways should be re-nationalised and restored to the pre Beeching vandalism. (for the pedants I don't mean actually restore every line as was but restore the level of coverage) The roads are clogged with private personal transport mostly transporting empty seats around the country. Motoring is far too cheap, the cost of fuel and VED needs to at least double and the money used to subsidise a proper public transport system, at the heart of which should be a clean efficient railway system run under proper business principles. I am not advocating the bad old days of British rail but a new public service efficiently run. Pay proper money to get proper management and drop the fares, restore the network. Take the money from motoring which is far too cheap.
There would need to be a heck of a rise in VED and fuel prices to counteract car factories slowing production and the resultant unemployment / rise in benefits claims in direct and associated industries before any monies could be invested in the railways.
The second hand car market would also stagnate with many businesses being forced to close.
I'm not sure how (or if) the employers of people with company cars would be able to absorb the costs. If not, they would have to pass costs on to their clients / customers who in turn would have to raise prices.
The second hand car market would also stagnate with many businesses being forced to close.
I'm not sure how (or if) the employers of people with company cars would be able to absorb the costs. If not, they would have to pass costs on to their clients / customers who in turn would have to raise prices.
Network Rail, which has been blamed for many of the recent problems, already is nationalised.
While it may be true that staff now show an interest in passengers, their bosses do not. If they can decrease the number of delays simply by cancelling a few trains without warning, that's what they'll do. Great for shareholders, less so for passengers.
Grayling is not competent.
While it may be true that staff now show an interest in passengers, their bosses do not. If they can decrease the number of delays simply by cancelling a few trains without warning, that's what they'll do. Great for shareholders, less so for passengers.
Grayling is not competent.
incidentally, here's a take from the Guardian (last year) saying that half the railways are nationalised - it's just that the nations aren't Britain.
///At Romford station there’s a choice of trains into London: those run by the Dutch, or those run by the Chinese. Anyone heading for nearby Basildon has to change at Upminster and pay a fare to the Italian firm that has been operating C2C since January.
Welsh railways fell to German-owned Arriva long ago, while ScotRail is also in the hands of the Netherlands’ Abellio. The French, as part of Govia, own much of Britain’s biggest commuter franchises, including Southern Rail. Still, the news last week that South West Trains – serving destinations such as Weymouth and Windsor from Waterloo – would from August be operated by First MTR, partly owned by the Hong Kong government, marked a tipping point in Britain’s rail franchising.
With the transfer of this network, which has been operated since 1995 by Britain’s Stagecoach, one in two of the 1.7bn passenger journeys made in the UK each year will be on trains operated by foreign firms. And all of those firms are ultimately owned by foreign states///
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///At Romford station there’s a choice of trains into London: those run by the Dutch, or those run by the Chinese. Anyone heading for nearby Basildon has to change at Upminster and pay a fare to the Italian firm that has been operating C2C since January.
Welsh railways fell to German-owned Arriva long ago, while ScotRail is also in the hands of the Netherlands’ Abellio. The French, as part of Govia, own much of Britain’s biggest commuter franchises, including Southern Rail. Still, the news last week that South West Trains – serving destinations such as Weymouth and Windsor from Waterloo – would from August be operated by First MTR, partly owned by the Hong Kong government, marked a tipping point in Britain’s rail franchising.
With the transfer of this network, which has been operated since 1995 by Britain’s Stagecoach, one in two of the 1.7bn passenger journeys made in the UK each year will be on trains operated by foreign firms. And all of those firms are ultimately owned by foreign states///
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