Christmas Come Early At Strasbourg

[vetuste_ennemi]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46530265

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[ichkeria]

Christmas come early?

Maybe the more violent factions among the recent protesters who’ve been systematically tearing their own country apart will take a moment of shame to reflect and take the pressure off France’s hard pressed security forces.

[Zacs-Master]

Yes, a rather unfortunate turn of phrase for a tragic event.

[naomi24]

// Police added that the 29-year-old suspect was born in Strasbourg and was already known to the security services as a possible terrorist threat. //
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Hmmmm, always a bit of a sticky one that though, isn't it?//

The only reason it’s a sticky one is because the powers that be and the public in general never learn. Regardless of where these people are born they belong to a culture that we have imported and continue to import. Islam doesn’t recognise borders; its adherents harbour no allegiance to any country, and the sooner our leaders and the public acknowledge that the better.

[Prudie]

"//Will he now be reviewing procedures for importing terrorists and criminals into europe? //
Probably not, as the suspect was born in France"

Well perhaps it could be reviewed to protect those of future generations? Why is it almost excused just because they were born in that country?

[Khandro]

I have spent quite a lot of time in Strasbourg and I can report that the town centre where the Christmas market is held, which is near the Cathedral, is the most heavily guarded centre I have ever been in.
About a square mile is cordoned off, cars have to be parked outside of the cordon, those entering on foot are checked, the trams pass through without stopping or opening their doors, and the place swarms with soldiers and cops.
Perhaps being so heavily guarded makes it an attractive 'coup' for a madman assassin?

[naomi24]

I haven't been to Strasbourg for quite some time. Sounds like a different world, Khandro. Very sad.

[Gromit]

// Why is it almost excused just because they were born in that country? //

It is not excused. But the immediate response of stop immigration now is a daft one as this particular terrorist is a home grown one. And if he does turn out to have African parentage, then any barring is 30 years too late.
But don’t let that stop you all knee-jerking.

[naomi24]

Gromit, //But don’t let that stop you all knee-jerking…

Actually, it’s those who cry ‘He was born here’, who are knee-jerking. Wherever these people come from we need to acknowledge that the culture – which we have imported and are still importing – is responsible.

[ummmm]

It might be the culture, Naomi, but what can be done about it?

[naomi24]

Big question, ummmmm. Any practical suggestion that might go some way to eradicating the problem - like banning those from that culture from entering Europe, or banging up anyone who is or who ever has been on security services radar - would be rejected.

[-Talbot-]

Where's the logic behind continually importing Islam?

The majority of Europeans don't want it, yet European leaders ignore them.

[Khandro]

Ref. my above post at 9:11. The security measures I mention are not permanent, but only for the Christmas market period. Though Strasbourg, being the seat of the EU Parliament, the Council of Europe and the European Court of Human Rights is more security aware than most other cities - to not much avail it seems.

I cannot see what would stop a determined jihadist from leaving equipment secretly somewhere in the centre before the security is fully in place.

Many cities in Europe and the US are being made ugly by the placing of concrete posts everywhere to prevent pavement vehicle attacks. Why not plant trees instead?

[Spicerack]

Disgraceful, though not unexpected, deflection from Ichi.

[naomi24]

That would mean planting mature trees and digging up roads and pavements to do it, Khandro. Not a quick or cheap solution.

[Khandro]

n. You plant young trees which require no more of a hole than that required for a concrete post and you use a thick strong wooden post to support it for it's first years. Granted they can't be planted everywhere, but it would add beauty to our towns, thereby we all gain (and they lose)

[ummmm]

But they's take years to grow into any substantial enough to stop a car from plowing into people.

[Khandro]

^^^ Like I said, the tree has a thick wooden post (or metal cage) to support it

[naomi24]

Nice idea, Khandro, but impractical and expensive.