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So if we do drop out with no deal, lets make it even harder to get things sorted eh?
The remainiacs are so determined to stop us attaining freedom from their beloved EUSSR.
So if we do drop out with no deal, lets make it even harder to get things sorted eh?
The remainiacs are so determined to stop us attaining freedom from their beloved EUSSR.
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//There is no honour in economic suicide. // Haha and they talk about lowering the voting age. Bless. Have a look at the latest German economic projections. Ohh Dear. France on fire. Germany sinking fast(when they have to pay their own way it is going to go titzen uppen). Italy about to strike for freedom, and the Belgians and Dutch falling over themselves to be...
21:46 Tue 08th Jan 2019
The latest desperate attempt by Cooper(Balls) and the Kamikaze Remainiacs. As long as it means no money is being handed over to the EUSSR either, I can accept it. Especially as Germany slides into recession. In fact maybe it would be a good idea to shut down parliament to let them see that we get by without the self serving gits.
""The intensity of their attacks is well beyond anything the Brexiteers can muster, which is why it feels like the pro-Remain counter-revolutionaries are winning.
To such true believers, nothing is taboo anymore, almost everything – careers, power, the Tory government, the capitalist order, even – is worth giving up to stop us from leaving the EU, especially without a formal deal. They have worked themselves up into such a frenzy that, shamefully, some would now prefer a neo-communist government to any meaningful Brexit.
There is a name for such preposterous loss of proportionality: it’s called Brexit Derangement Syndrome…""
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""The intensity of their attacks is well beyond anything the Brexiteers can muster, which is why it feels like the pro-Remain counter-revolutionaries are winning.
To such true believers, nothing is taboo anymore, almost everything – careers, power, the Tory government, the capitalist order, even – is worth giving up to stop us from leaving the EU, especially without a formal deal. They have worked themselves up into such a frenzy that, shamefully, some would now prefer a neo-communist government to any meaningful Brexit.
There is a name for such preposterous loss of proportionality: it’s called Brexit Derangement Syndrome…""
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I can see where you're coming from, although I suppose the point is to rule out No Deal by making it impractical.
Better to be flexible than hamstrung, although frankly Brexiteers have to accept that this is precisely what they have spent the last few years trying to do. Legally enshrining March 29th as Brexit Day was a monumentally short-sighted error of judgement, for example.
Better to be flexible than hamstrung, although frankly Brexiteers have to accept that this is precisely what they have spent the last few years trying to do. Legally enshrining March 29th as Brexit Day was a monumentally short-sighted error of judgement, for example.
//Legally enshrining March 29th as Brexit Day was a monumentally short-sighted error of judgement, for example. //
let's be clear Jim, it was not a decision made by brexiteers alone. the decision to invoke article 50 (and QED enshrine the 29th March 2019), was voted for and passed by parliament with a majority of 5 to 1. if it was such a monumental error, why did none of that 5 to 1 majority spot it and vote against?
let's be clear Jim, it was not a decision made by brexiteers alone. the decision to invoke article 50 (and QED enshrine the 29th March 2019), was voted for and passed by parliament with a majority of 5 to 1. if it was such a monumental error, why did none of that 5 to 1 majority spot it and vote against?
mushroom -- while I agree that the decision to give a50 notification was made by almost all of Parliament, it is not true that this fixed any given date as the day on which the UK actually left. That came later, as a part of the separate 2018 EU (Withdrawal) Act, and was completely and utterly unnecessary. The relevant amendment passed, I think, by only a handful of votes, as Tory Brexiteers insisted on it and Tory Remainers decided not to fight it, but the rest of the House voted against it.
//Legally enshrining March 29th as Brexit Day was a monumentally short-sighted error of judgement, for example. //
More nonsense. The referendum was held on 23/06/2016. The day allocated as the deadline to carry out the wishes of the electorate is set to be 29/03/2019 after a full parliamentary debate and a vote that was just about 5 to1 for. This is 1 year 9 months after the referendum. Hardly a rush job then. How many pieces of legislation were passed in secret and rushed through the house in days when it was pro EUSSR statutes?
More nonsense. The referendum was held on 23/06/2016. The day allocated as the deadline to carry out the wishes of the electorate is set to be 29/03/2019 after a full parliamentary debate and a vote that was just about 5 to1 for. This is 1 year 9 months after the referendum. Hardly a rush job then. How many pieces of legislation were passed in secret and rushed through the house in days when it was pro EUSSR statutes?
//Better to be flexible than hamstrung, although frankly Brexiteers have to accept that this is precisely what they have spent the last few years trying to do.//
More nonsense. All the delays and prevarications have been engineered by the Remainiacs, in an attempt to thwart or delay Brexit. By being flexible Jim means bending over backwards to please the EUSSR power mad drunkards and being forever...…..err hamstrung by their self serving rules and regulations designed to castrate our own democratic process.
More nonsense. All the delays and prevarications have been engineered by the Remainiacs, in an attempt to thwart or delay Brexit. By being flexible Jim means bending over backwards to please the EUSSR power mad drunkards and being forever...…..err hamstrung by their self serving rules and regulations designed to castrate our own democratic process.
Togo, you're mixing up two pieces of legislation. The EU (Notification of Withdrawal) Act 2017 gave Theresa May permission to notify the EU of our intention to leave. It did not set a date, although it was indeed a 5-to-1 vote. Some time later, the EU (Withdrawal Act) 2018 was passed, including an amendment to fix March 29th as "Exit Day". That amendment was passed only something like 325-300 (depending on the exact version of the amendment). It did not need to be -- Tory Remainers ended up backing down, but not fixing the day of Exit would have been perfectly fine and in fact far better.
ymb -- Stop making stuff up about me. I do not hate democracy just because it goes against me. You keep massively misrepresenting my position, and it's frankly pathetic of you.
TTT: Well, if that were the case, then why were Tory Brexiteers so insistent on enshrining March 29th in law, and why did Theresa May back down on the issue? In fact -- as has been made clear several times since -- Article 50 allows the process to be extended as necessary, or notification to be withdrawn unilaterally. This is clearly harder if you have insisted on specifying when "exit day" is. Under current law it is obligatory for the UK to leave on March 29th, and Parliament must pass an amendment in order to undo this.
Put another way, the fixed date needlessly traps the UK. This isn't anything to do with being "anti-Democracy". It is simply a matter of common sense. As you complain -- and with some good reason -- in your original question, the Remainer move to stifle fiscal policy in the event of No Deal would be potentially very damaging. Well, so is foisting No Deal on the country at all when it is woefully unprepared for that outcome.
TTT: Well, if that were the case, then why were Tory Brexiteers so insistent on enshrining March 29th in law, and why did Theresa May back down on the issue? In fact -- as has been made clear several times since -- Article 50 allows the process to be extended as necessary, or notification to be withdrawn unilaterally. This is clearly harder if you have insisted on specifying when "exit day" is. Under current law it is obligatory for the UK to leave on March 29th, and Parliament must pass an amendment in order to undo this.
Put another way, the fixed date needlessly traps the UK. This isn't anything to do with being "anti-Democracy". It is simply a matter of common sense. As you complain -- and with some good reason -- in your original question, the Remainer move to stifle fiscal policy in the event of No Deal would be potentially very damaging. Well, so is foisting No Deal on the country at all when it is woefully unprepared for that outcome.
"ymb -- Stop making stuff up about me. I do not hate democracy just because it goes against me. You keep massively misrepresenting my position, and it's frankly pathetic of you"
Then maybe you should read some of your posts. Brexit, Trump springs to mind - never accepting you are not always correct.
"and it's frankly pathetic of you"
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And you just couldn't resist the liberal elite belittling tactic could you?
Personally I dont care what you think of me, I've got your game and I will continue to pull you up on it.
Then maybe you should read some of your posts. Brexit, Trump springs to mind - never accepting you are not always correct.
"and it's frankly pathetic of you"
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And you just couldn't resist the liberal elite belittling tactic could you?
Personally I dont care what you think of me, I've got your game and I will continue to pull you up on it.
//Article 50 allows the process to be extended as necessary,//
yes, but only if the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.
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yes, but only if the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.
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