France Recalls Ambassador To Italy As Diplomatic Row Deepens

[naomi24]

Trouble n Paradise?

//A diplomatic row between France and Italy has deepened, with France complaining of "unfounded attacks and outlandish claims" by Italian leaders.

France recalled its ambassador to Italy for talks on Thursday, saying the situation was "unprecedented" since the end of World War Two.

It comes after Italian Deputy PM Luigi Di Maio met French "yellow-vest" protesters near Paris on Tuesday.

France warned him not to interfere in the country's politics.

Relations between the two countries - both founding members of the EU - have been tense since Italy's populist Five Star Movement and right-wing League party formed a coalition government in June 2018.

The two governments have clashed over a range of issues, including immigration.//

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47161500

[naomi24]

//Two lots of Johnny Foreigner having a row. Nowt to do with us//

But these two are not Johnny Foreigner - they’re members of our wonderful European family. You know – all for one and one for all.

[ichkeria]

I’m not daft: I realise this is only of interest to people to think it’s a united Europe against little old England and feign amazement when anything other than a Eurovision gay love in seems to be happening across the channel :-)
Hence “trouble in paradise” being such a telling comment :-)

[naomi24]

I agree. Trouble in Paradise is a very telling comment.

[Togo]

You are once again wrong on so many levels Ichy. Some of us know out history and well remember the little spat between other regions "in Europe" that resulted in us being drawn in and millions of young lives being extinguished. The more the EU pipsqueeks pipe up and interfere in the workings of Nation states the more likely of it repeating itself. Do we think that if Le Pen promised the French people a referendum on leaving the EUSSR that they would elect here? 44% is about the same as our very own polls predicted before we held it...……….We all know what happened then.

[Peter Pedant]

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// //Two lots of Johnny Foreigner having a row. Nowt to do with us// Nigh - and speaking in forrin, damn them!

« Les rapports d’amitié avec la France doivent être défendus et préservés. Il faut rétablir immédiatement un climat de confiance avec nos alliés, et cela passe par le plein respect des dynamiques institutionnelles de chaque Etat », a-t-il affirmé.

zat eez the French Press reporting the Italian president who is clearly on the side of the French

frenship must be defended and cherished - they are our allies and the respective offices of each gondree should be respected
Kind of
https://www.lemonde.fr/international/article/2019/02/08/france-italie-au-sein-de-la-coalition-entre-ligue-et-m5s-une-surenchere-electoraliste_5421006_3210.html

and on the same page - more forrin - sorry Nigh!
Luigi Di Maio : « Pourquoi j’ai voulu rencontrer des représentants des “gilets jaunes” »

AB intellects will ask: "who Luigi di maio den?"

the italian prime minister ( they have a prez and a prime minister - and for that matter state-paid-for political parties) - Luigi is the italian prime minister an ee wants to meet the gilets jaunes who are giving Macron hell. oo la la!

No wonder Pres Macron ( The French have a prez and prime minister but the prez appears to wear the undies in Paree) has said
Non non non non!

The spat continues

Imagine thatchers reaction if the president of m'gululand - a raving trot wanted to meet arfur scargill during the miners' strike.
exploding handbags or something

[Peter Pedant]

where as the italians say
https://www.ilmessaggero.it/politica/francia_richiama_ambasciatore_ultima_ora-4284172.html

Parigi richiama l'ambasciatore, la crisi più grave tra Italia e Francia. Allarme del Colle

Paree recalls its ambassador - a very grave creez between Italy an France - alarm in the hills ( I think that is a reference to the Parliament or the ministries who are on the hills of Rome (yeah all seven)

the article kicks off with Musso declaring war on France in 1940
oo la la boys and gurlz

[Peter Pedant]

an the Thpanith ....
https://elpais.com/

actually dont carry anything on this
and are clearly showing as much interest in foreign news as the usual suspects on AB

[vetuste_ennemi]

// a raving trot wanted to meet arfur scargill during the miners' strike//

Jacques Delors did the next best thing, didn't he?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2007/sep/12/bringbacksocialeurope

Ah, a new "social dimension" to the EU. "Hey, brothers! Full bellies and chains of gold". What's not to love?

[vetuste_ennemi]

For some reason I'm reminded of the geese on the Capitoline Hill warning the Romans of a Gallic attack.

London has got plenty of geese (not that our lot are much use for anything but stuffing), but the nearest thing to a hill would have to be named Capitulation.

[Peter Pedant]

erm Jacques Delors addressed the TUC 1988 four years after the miners' strike 1984

but hell if the facts dont fit - rewrite them - this is after all AB and not a court of law !

and anyway didnt the Sun memorably riposte - up yours delors!

[Peter Pedant]

oh yes very good
capitulation - capitoline
I wonder how many got that one ....

anyway after the snide and spiteful comments about the AB liberal elite keeping its Lord Snootyh noses out of the debate - I think we have done our little bit .....

[vetuste_ennemi]

Here's another. Brennus (Gauls got luicky this time). Sack of Rome. Demands tribute. Romans balance scale with 38 billion sesterces worth of gold. Brennus chucks sowrd on to other side. "Vae victis". Funny, you might have thought he would have said it in French. Probably didbn't do forrin, though.

[vetuste_ennemi]

No facts "rewritten" and no history "invented". Wot I wrote:

"Jacques Delors did the next best thing".

[Peter Pedant]

erm Brennus he no spikketty fransh

too early - probably P or Q goidelic altho god knows how they know that as none has been recorded

so yeah in fact he probably did speak forrin.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//rm Brennus he no spikketty fransh//

Why didn't he spikkett itchi, then?

[Kromovaracun]

Not all of us speak French. It is a teensy bit obnoxious to provide lengthy quotes from French sources untranslated.

[naomi24]

PP, //Two lots of Johnny Foreigner having a row. Nowt to do with us// Nigh - and speaking in forrin, damn them!//

A bit of soothing balm for your regularly bruised nose perhaps? How often you fall on it! Together with your wayward brain, your wayward fingers are running away with you yet again. ‘Nigh’ didn’t say that.

[Peter Pedant]

oops sorry Nigh - I thought all this time you didnt do forrin - ever since a supposed gun man in Chamonix ran amok. You said you didnt do forrin and it couldnt have happened as it wasnt on the Beeb. Like Trump I accept when you said: "I dont do forrin" you meant "I do do forrin" It is a funny old world

I cd be wrong I frequently am
My nose is by and large healthy - thx

Krom - my French translation of Le Monde begins at zat eez and ends 'kind of'. Free translation and I quite understand as an ABer you riposte brilliantly:
"If I dont do French how am I gonna know anything is a translation, for chrissakes?"

and my Italian translation is the sentence ( of more than three words I am afraid ) that has the word 'creez' in it. that is meant to be a translator mistake for 'crisis' - totally false and misleading I regret to admit, a professional translator was not involved.

sozza krom - I know AB is an intellectual stretch at times and the Science thread Gor blimey! Gawd as Nigh might say - dont go there man!

Gentles - my heart felt apolz to both - go in peace !

Gilets jaunes revolting again on the streets of Paree again tonight boyz and gurlz - dont go there if you dont speak forrin !

[naomi24]

PP, //You said you didnt do forrin and it couldnt have happened as it wasnt on the Beeb.....//

Nope.

I cd be wrong I frequently am //

Yep.

[Peter Pedant]

so true ! so true !
nope you dont do forrin:
nope you DO do forrin

or you do and dont at the same time !
AB and the usual suspects in full swing again on a saturday night