Not Sure If This Is Allowed

bednobs | 20:24 Fri 08th Feb 2019 | News

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-47175040
read this earlier and just felt so sad

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Mamyalynne

News would have got out regardless, poor little ones. RIP

sanmac

If what is allowed, bednobs?

Tilly2

No speculation, say the police but you can't help but speculate can you?

bednobs

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to speculate i suppose - sub judice- clearly its the parents who've been arrested but the charge is odd and i wonder what on earth could have happened

andy-hughes

This is local to me - about twelve miles away, and the word on the street locally is that a boiler explosion is being explored.

Peter Pedant

the power to arrest under suspicion
is pretty weak
retro will give you chapter and verse
"anything which is not fanciful" - ( is used for money laundering )

since the parents were there and are alive and four kids are dead suspecting them is not fanciful at all ....

charging them is a different matter
when discussion should stop BUT the authorities are pretty supine when it comes to speculation in the social media ....

Tilly2

Then why the manslaughter charge?

Peter Pedant

I dont see that they have been charged - - so it is not sub judice

andy-hughes

I'm not up to date with this - haven't seen any news for a few days.

Peter Pedant

erm arresting on suspicion
and charging
are two different things ....

limited discussion after charging - but before - - - -anything goes

THECORBYLOON

BEDNOBS, on the CPS website it says,
"Gross Negligence Manslaughter

This is where the death is a result of a grossly negligent (though otherwise lawful) act or omission on the part of the defendant. The law in respect of this has been clarified in the case of R v Adomako (1994) 3 All ER 79 where a four stage test for gross negligence manslaughter known as the Adomako Test was outlined by the House of Lords:

The test involves the following stages:

a) the existence of a duty of care to the deceased;
b) a breach of that duty of care which;
c) causes (or significantly contributes) to the death of the victim; and
d) the breach should be characterised as gross negligence, and therefore a crime."

bednobs

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yes but i cant imagine what circumstances would lead to the suspicion of that charge in this case