The High Court Makes It Even Easier For Illegal Immigrants.

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6762103/Court-blasts-law-forcing-landlords-check-tenants-migrant-status.html

[Zacs-Master]

There’s something fundamentally wrong with a system which relies on landlords to check whether a person is legally allowed to be in the country.

[johnny.5]

groundhog day ?

[New Judge]

Zacs is quite right. Already discussed here:

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1648118.html

[THECORBYLOON]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-47415383

"Mr Justice Spencer said the scheme had "little or no effect" on its main aim of controlling immigration and even if it had, this was "significantly outweighed by the discriminatory effect"."

If it had little or no effect, I can't see how discontinuing the scheme would make it easier for illegal immigrants.

[douglas9401]

Clandestine migrants, please!

[anotheoldgit]

I apologise for creating a duplicate thread.

But I can't see any wrong in landlords checking the credentials of their tenants.

Don't we all have to go through certain checks to prove who we are, where we were born and if we have a NHS number and NI number etc, etc?

[anotheoldgit]

THECORBYLOON

/// I can't see how discontinuing the scheme would make it easier for illegal immigrants. ///

Well it would make it more difficult for them to rent a property for a start.

[New Judge]

"Don't we all have to go through certain checks to prove who we are, where we were born and if we have a NHS number and NI number etc, etc?"

Not the last time I went to hospital, AOG. I just pitched up and (after a fashion) they saw to me. Yes, I gave my details but I doubt very much that they were checked to ensure I was bona fide. In fact many in the sawbone profession have said they have no intention of making such checks as their job is to heal the sick (wherever they might hail from). It seems to have escaped them that they also have a duty to protect their employers (the taxpayer) from fraud, but there it is.

However, that's a State funded organisation. There is no reason why private suppliers should have to check the credentials of those wishing to use their services (with the threat of criminal sanctions if they refuse or fail). What next? Tesco's needing proof of entitlement to buy a pound (sorry, a kilo) of spuds?

[anotheoldgit]

New Judge
/// What next? Tesco's needing proof of entitlement to buy a pound (sorry, a kilo) of spuds? ///

That's going a little too far, but you do need ID to prove one is over a certain age to purchase certain other goods.

[TonyV]

When my x boss was employing people he new they were Albanian but traveling on Italian passports. Going back to early 2000's

[THECORBYLOON]

I can't mind on the last time I was asked to provide my NHS number, NI Number or date of birth.

[THECORBYLOON]

ANOTHEOLDGIT, do you need to show ID when buying alcohol at the shops?

[anotheoldgit]

THECORBYLOON

/// I can't mind on the last time I was asked to provide my NHS number, NI Number or date of birth. ///

Obviously you have never been in hospital, by providing my date of birth when asked saved me from undergoing a certain test.
They had incorrectly sent me down instead of another patient who happened to be years younger than me.

Good job it was only a test and not amputation surgery.

[anotheoldgit]

THECORBYLOON

No because one doesn't buy alcohol from SpecSavers.

[THECORBYLOON]

I have been in hospital a few times but I don't know my NHS number.

With regards to the test you avoided, was that based on the date of birth you gave or because you showed evidence of the date of birth?

[THECORBYLOON]

Is attempting to buy alcohol at Specsavers an indication that spectacles are required?

[Peter Pedant]

// But I can't see any wrong in landlords checking the credentials of their tenants. //

try being a landlord - I dread the bit where I ask WASPs that I have to see their passports....especially as I have said that a rental contract is a private matter and not anything the govt gets interested in

but hey - all it takes to lose our rights is for good men to keep silent when the govt calls

[Peter Pedant]

the discriminatory bit is that
landlords look at immigrants and think o god I think I will just make life easier for myself ....

[retrocop]

Rachmanism still survives.
The good old days when Great Britain could declare a person stateless.

[-Talbot-]

Why should it be down to landlords?

I have rented out to a foreigner but if I were to be held responsible for vetting their credentials to be in the country I would probably only rent to people I knew to be British.