Will This Help Silence Mr Robinson?

[-Talbot-]

https://twitter.com/tom_watson/status/1101931566387941376


Or his Tom Watson helping to promote TR?

[Peter Pedant]

to a large extent I support free speech
yes even Mr Tommy Robinson ....

[Zacs-Master]

This would be the Tom Watson who’s party are in the midst of an anti semitism row, right?

[naomi24]

This whole thing is a hate campaign against Tommy Robinson - but ultimately to whose benefit?

[Togo]

Is this the same Watson who used the press and me deahh platforms to smear other people with false paedophilia accusations? Just asking.

[Mamyalynne]

I take your point, if he feels the page breaks some rules or other, just report it - no need to trumpet.

[douglas9401]

More control freakery from Armani clad men of the people.

[-Talbot-]

A strange tweet here from Tom

https://twitter.com/tom_watson/status/1100374450770509825


Is he ignorant or something far worse?

[naomi24]

Has he complained about Anjem Choudary'a page? I hear that's pretty telling.

And there's me thinking there's at least one reasonable politician on the Labour benches. Oh well....

[agchristie]

'silence' is an antonym of 'TR'.

[Spicerack]

Let's be kind and call it ignorance, Talbot. But that begs the question, who the hell is voting for these cretins.

I hope Kromo sees this thread and realises it's not 'a right-wing fantasy'. Anyone who believes in free speech should be worried about what's going on.

[vetuste_ennemi]

//Anyone who believes in free speech should be worried about what's going on//

Be reassured, Spicerack. I quote UK's greatest jurist (22:31): "to a large extent I support free speech".

There is an unstated codicil: {i]I Peter Pedant[i] will decide how far I extend my arm to defend what I may, or may not, choose to call "free speech".

I think our freedoms are safe in such judicial arms.


Innit?

[vetuste_ennemi]

If you had to choose as a model of polity between Pericles' Athens (420BC) or Mohammed's Medina (630AD) you'd be forced to choose the former, wouldn't you?

(I'm assuming you have basic moral principles and an average IQ)

PS: will this point be understood?

[Peter Pedant]

Pericles - oh it was so long ago.....
Ah yes - - Periclean democracy - now let me recall it at work

"The Melians refused, and after a siege the Athenians captured their city, slaughtered the men, and enslaved the women and children. This siege is best remembered for the Melian Dialogue by Thucydides, which is a dramatization of the negotiations between the Athenians and the Melians before the siege." -gloss on wiggy

and after aegispotami ( who dat den?) the groan went up the long walls to the city
and they asked themselves whether the spartan victors would visit on the defeated Athenians the justice they meted out to the Melians.....

yes I did understand the reference

Before the Falklands - the Beeb had a dramatization of the Melian Dialogue aimed clearly at the UK and Argentina....
I think an MP called on the Beeb to be arraigned for treason ( yeah well ...)

[-Talbot-]

I know these threads will never attract a certain audience but if you do bother reading it ... read this about the man who thinks Tommy Robinson should be silenced.

https://www.gspellchecker.com/2016/08/mo-shafiq-supporter-of-blasphemy-laws-and-hate-preaching-extremists/

[Togo]

//Mo Shafiq is a man who will incite death threats against fellow Muslims, promote and defend blasphemy laws, demand that people lose their job for having the ‘wrong’ faith and roll out the red carpet for extremists who demand and celebrate murder for blasphemy.//

Surely that means that the majority of muslims view him as "moderate"?

[JF85]

I take my hat off to you guys. I read something about Tom Watson wanting to restrict Robinson's access to mass media, then something else about "the man who thinks Tommy Robinson should be silenced", but it had never occurred to me Tom Watson and Mo Shafiq were the same person.

Thanks for that clarification.

[Spicerack]

They're different people. One is an Islamist scumbag, the other a left wing ignoramus. hth.
What do you think of what they're doing?

[ichkeria]

Lol jf

[Kromovaracun]

//I hope Kromo sees this thread and realises it's not 'a right-wing fantasy'. Anyone who believes in free speech should be worried about what's going on.//

The discussion we were having on the other thread was over whether or not conservatives were being persecuted in the United States. That is indeed a right wing fantasy.

As for Robinson, Watson's letter claims that his Youtube videos include incitement to violence - which for good reason is not protected by freedom of speech. I have no idea if this is true or not as I don't watch his channel (and being honest I don't feel particularly inclined to comb back through it and check all his videos). Given that he has past form with incitement to violence, though, it would not surprise me. If he is using his channel to do that, then I don't think he should be on Youtube.

[agchristie]

Well,he's not been pulled from YouTube as things stand so they can't be too concerned with claims of incitement to cause violence.