This Deal Or No Brexit At All

[-Talbot-]

https://twitter.com/JunckerEU/status/1105238043106181120


When was 'No Deal' taken off the table?



https://twitter.com/SimonPearson961/status/1105241140943568897

[agchristie]

//Brexit voters should be ashamed of themselves!//

It is the Government who is to blame not the voters.They had ages to prepare and then agreed to terms that were never going to be accepted.May has continued to stumble along a road ridden with self inflicted potholes.

[Rockrose]

I disagree agchristie

[youngmafbog]

"Brexit voters should be ashamed of themselves!"

Take a hike.

[mushroom25]

would this be the rockrose definition of democracy -

"there's going to be a vote. you can vote any way you see fit but bear in mind there's a right and wrong answer. the right answer is our(my) point of view. if you vote contrary to the right answer, you will be shot".

[Rockrose]

Is that the level of your intelligence youngmafbog?

[Rockrose]

No mushroom - my definition of democracy is that I can disagree with what is voted on.

[mushroom25]

//my definition of democracy is that I can disagree with what is voted on. //

…..and insult those that disagree with you?

[Rockrose]

As those that insult me

[agchristie]

//I disagree agchristie//

So you think Mrs May needed MORE time?!

[anotheoldgit]

Rockrose
/// Is that the level of your intelligence youngmafbog? ///

And the 'likes of you' go into a hissy fit if someone dares to insult you.

[Rockrose]

^^^^^
Lol you have started early

[Togo]

"" Not all people on the Left are unpleasant, intimidating, bullying, arrogant and posing as perpetually morally superior. But those that are and do are always on the Left.""

Julia Lynne 12/03/2019

[anotheoldgit]

Rockrose
/// Lol you have started early ///

lol I thought that you had promised not to post to me again?

[Rockrose]

I have a right to reply - if I did not reply to your direct response then you would have called me rude.

[Old_Geezer]

As far as I can tell, the changes amount to very little. Issues other than the backstop are unchanged. The backstop is still going to be there trapping us in, i.e. no immediate Brexit; and if we want out then we have to jump through the hoops and convince some arbitration that the EU are just trying to keep us in. No right to decide that enough is enough and we have control of our own destiny to choose to leave. Presently it seems to be just new lipstick on the pig.

[New Judge]

"What annoys anti Brexit people who’d be happy to go along with the referendum particularly is that having come this far it’s actually Brexiteers who want to vote effectively against Brexit."

They don't want to vote against Brexit. They want to vote against Mrs May's deal which is no Brexit at all other than in name. And the Irish backstop issue is only one of the many shortcomings that make it so.

[mushroom25]

//just new lipstick on the pig//

sigh. I guess we all need to have a skinful and put on the beer goggles then......

[agchristie]

//it seems to be just new lipstick on the pig.//

Is it MAYbelline? ;-)

[fiction-factory]

I'm sure we've been ove rthis before, ag, but it should have been clear all along that nothing that TM came back from Brussels with could ever get the support of a very divided house. The only thing that might have got a majority in the house was to say "forget Brexit, we'll stay in the EU." Any attempt to strike a balance between honouring the public's overall wish to leave with the desire to acheieve an orderly withdrawal and satisfy those many MPS who wished to remain (either in EU or in all but name) was doomed to failure as it was not acceptable to the staunch Remainers on one side or the hard Brexiteers on the other.
I doubt any politician could have resolved this problem

[anotheoldgit]

Rockrose

Not rude, but please don't make promisers that you can't carry out.