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Sadiq Khans Mosque Security Pledge
It was announced on the BBC London news tonight that the Mayor of London has acceded to the wishes of Muslims in London to grant millions of pounds to assist in the security of Mosques.No doubt as a result of the attack on two Mosques in Christchurch. Whilst it would be abhorrent for a similar attack on any place of worship in the UK it would be irresponsible to ignore that particular threat. That is a given.
Does any one believe the Muslim Council of Great Britain will actually meet any security measures suggested half way if their security is to be subsidised by Londoners?
It would be horribly ironic should a 'being' enter a Mosque disguised head to foot in a Burka carrying a couple of MAC 10 or Scorpion miniature under their garb and perpetrate a similar massacre. Will Muslim women be allowed to continue to wear this hideous dress or,indeed,subject themselves to a strict body search when entering a Mosque? If not. So called increased security will be a sham.
Does any one believe the Muslim Council of Great Britain will actually meet any security measures suggested half way if their security is to be subsidised by Londoners?
It would be horribly ironic should a 'being' enter a Mosque disguised head to foot in a Burka carrying a couple of MAC 10 or Scorpion miniature under their garb and perpetrate a similar massacre. Will Muslim women be allowed to continue to wear this hideous dress or,indeed,subject themselves to a strict body search when entering a Mosque? If not. So called increased security will be a sham.
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I'm not, i'm arguing for people to have the right to wear what they like, and i'm telling you that if a man in an army outfit with a helmet and guns can go into a mosque and shoot it up, so can anyone, so using that to suggest banning the burqa is ridiculous and moot, because the guy wasn't wearing a burqa.
Do many far right loonies go and commit terrorism in a burqa?
Do many far right loonies go and commit terrorism in a burqa?
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Again you are either being obtuse.
A burqa is a great disguise for a white male to slip into anywhere and commit a heinous crime.It covers up what is carried beneath both in terms of identity and lethal weaponry and equipment. It is called 'SUBTERFUGE and CAMOUFLAGE' If you are going to splash millions of money in security measures why go at it half hearted? A total waste of money.
If you were monitoring a bank of cctv screens would you say oh there are a number of burka clad persons now entering the Mosque but that is normal for a Muslim women in a mosque. No problem.
Of course it's bloody normal and that is why a determined nutjob would expect that to be thought of him if he wore such attire whilst entering a mosque armed to the teeth. You cannot have good security all the time.But to eliminate an obvious threat would be safer rather than taking the normal for granted. Expect the Unexpected or take the consequences.
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Again you are either being obtuse.
A burqa is a great disguise for a white male to slip into anywhere and commit a heinous crime.It covers up what is carried beneath both in terms of identity and lethal weaponry and equipment. It is called 'SUBTERFUGE and CAMOUFLAGE' If you are going to splash millions of money in security measures why go at it half hearted? A total waste of money.
If you were monitoring a bank of cctv screens would you say oh there are a number of burka clad persons now entering the Mosque but that is normal for a Muslim women in a mosque. No problem.
Of course it's bloody normal and that is why a determined nutjob would expect that to be thought of him if he wore such attire whilst entering a mosque armed to the teeth. You cannot have good security all the time.But to eliminate an obvious threat would be safer rather than taking the normal for granted. Expect the Unexpected or take the consequences.
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Do many far right loonies go and commit terrorism in a burqa?
You would just wait for it to happen then and say,'who would of thought it'
Right wingers nutters don't apparently hold the monopoly on stupidity.
There are a few cases where crimes have been committed by Burqa clad MALES. An escape by a prisoner from Magistrates court springs to mind when donning a burqa in the toilet and just walking out.
You would just wait for it to happen then and say,'who would of thought it'
Right wingers nutters don't apparently hold the monopoly on stupidity.
There are a few cases where crimes have been committed by Burqa clad MALES. An escape by a prisoner from Magistrates court springs to mind when donning a burqa in the toilet and just walking out.
I see the logic, and would suggest a further extension. Since more people are killed by vehicle bombs than by by individuals dressed as fundamental believers, we should ban cars, vans and trucks.
Of course there is the counter argument, that terrorists want to stop us leading normal lives, but surely it is only right that we be allowed to surrender some of our own freedoms, right? It seems unfair that the beneficiaries of this new phase of Puritanism should be Middle Eastern and Asian women.
Of course there is the counter argument, that terrorists want to stop us leading normal lives, but surely it is only right that we be allowed to surrender some of our own freedoms, right? It seems unfair that the beneficiaries of this new phase of Puritanism should be Middle Eastern and Asian women.
And was the mosque's security at threat? No. So how would banning the Burqa help mosques, which is what we're discussing not the polices inability to successfully electronic track a man in a burqa?
Should all costumes and masks be banned along with hoodies? That would only be fair to keep the standards regarding face coverings.
What about makeup? Women could make themself look like anyone these days. What's the difference?
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Should all costumes and masks be banned along with hoodies? That would only be fair to keep the standards regarding face coverings.
What about makeup? Women could make themself look like anyone these days. What's the difference?
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// it would be abhorrent for an attack on any place of worship in the UK, it would be irresponsible to ignore that particular threat. That is a given."
no - that is a non sequitur from one of the usual suspects.
a mosque might be attacked so you protect all the churches ( oh but not the Roman catholic ones as we dont like them) - oh my god ( or Gawd! as some here so memorably exclaim)
what about chapels of rest or bishops palaces ?
no - that is a non sequitur from one of the usual suspects.
a mosque might be attacked so you protect all the churches ( oh but not the Roman catholic ones as we dont like them) - oh my god ( or Gawd! as some here so memorably exclaim)
what about chapels of rest or bishops palaces ?
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