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For the first time in my life I've used LOL.
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Come on....even the most achingly right-on amongst us on AB, and there's loads, must find this LOL. I more than LOL'd, I bloody roared with laughter. He was wearing an Ann Summers Mrs Clause outfit fer christ's sake.
What the hell is somebody who is clearly a bloke doing pouting like that?
Am I wrong to find this hilarious?
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Come on....even the most achingly right-on amongst us on AB, and there's loads, must find this LOL. I more than LOL'd, I bloody roared with laughter. He was wearing an Ann Summers Mrs Clause outfit fer christ's sake.
What the hell is somebody who is clearly a bloke doing pouting like that?
Am I wrong to find this hilarious?
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OP // Am I wrong to find this hilarious? //
Very. It is anything but.
A child can be forgiven, but corrected, when declaring ‘look at that funny man/woman mummy’
Its utterly disgraceful that a medical professional, supposedly trained to deal with people from all walks of life with varied problems, can make such a remark .
Very. It is anything but.
A child can be forgiven, but corrected, when declaring ‘look at that funny man/woman mummy’
Its utterly disgraceful that a medical professional, supposedly trained to deal with people from all walks of life with varied problems, can make such a remark .
I have never met anyone who objects to being called a 'lady' Prudie, that's genuinely shocked me.
I mean if I were in a shop and an assistant said to her Manager 'Could you help this lady' I'd be fine with that. 'Could you help this woman' comes off as rude, unvalued and churlish to me.
I'm genuinely surprised since I can't think of a single instance where I've ever encountered that and my friends and family are like a box of Liqourice, I mix with allsorts.
I mean if I were in a shop and an assistant said to her Manager 'Could you help this lady' I'd be fine with that. 'Could you help this woman' comes off as rude, unvalued and churlish to me.
I'm genuinely surprised since I can't think of a single instance where I've ever encountered that and my friends and family are like a box of Liqourice, I mix with allsorts.
Spath, it isn't my opinion, it's a scientific fact. A DNA test will very quickly and easily show you that your "lady" is male. That is not disrespectful, insensitive, transphobic or anything else... it is just the truth. Pronouns are based on your biological sex, nothing to do with gender. People can wear whatever they like etc etc.
If it has nothing to do with us and doesn't affect us, then why are we being expected to change our language, science definitions, words... it shouldn't really make a difference, should it?
One question I have... if this works and people are then happier afterwards- we know they have not literally changed sex (see above, and I'm sure nobody literally believes it)... then the problem never was that they were the "wrong sex". That hasn't changed, only perceptions have changed.
Wouldn't it be better to educate society instead, then go back to... women "should" look and behave like this and men "should" look and behave like that. The last thing we should be doing is using stereotypes as definitions.
If it has nothing to do with us and doesn't affect us, then why are we being expected to change our language, science definitions, words... it shouldn't really make a difference, should it?
One question I have... if this works and people are then happier afterwards- we know they have not literally changed sex (see above, and I'm sure nobody literally believes it)... then the problem never was that they were the "wrong sex". That hasn't changed, only perceptions have changed.
Wouldn't it be better to educate society instead, then go back to... women "should" look and behave like this and men "should" look and behave like that. The last thing we should be doing is using stereotypes as definitions.
If she wishes to be referred to as a female, then I will respect that, and stick to it.
as i've said and you've noted, gender is a social concept. Sex is biological.
"Pronouns are based on your biological sex, nothing to do with gender. "
And the whole point of this is.. they shouldn't be. They should be base on the person who you're calling he/she wishes. It should be based off of gender, and not biological sex.
as i've said and you've noted, gender is a social concept. Sex is biological.
"Pronouns are based on your biological sex, nothing to do with gender. "
And the whole point of this is.. they shouldn't be. They should be base on the person who you're calling he/she wishes. It should be based off of gender, and not biological sex.
It's hard to lie, spath. For most people, it really is. I don't see how an incontrovertible fact is "disrespectful". In real life, I would treat anyone I meet with respect, unless they blatantly didn't deserve it- but this is about long-term and much bigger than just the people we meet ourselves.
Women have spent centuries fighting to get away from this kind of prejudice. It isn't surprising most of us don't want to back- but thanks for asking x
Women have spent centuries fighting to get away from this kind of prejudice. It isn't surprising most of us don't want to back- but thanks for asking x
I'm surprised you've not come across that before calico, I'm not going to rake up threads or stuff on the internet but just a couple of quick googles gives you:
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// 'Could you help this lady' I'd be fine with that. 'Could you help this woman' comes off as rude, unvalued and churlish to me//
That's an interesting observation as "this lady" is exactly equivalent in meaning to "this woman". So CalicoGirl's sensitivity is purely cultural, as in when and how you use terms like "lady" or "woman".
I suggest that CalicoGirl isn't offended by the word "***"
when it's used by a black rapper. Which it often is.
That's an interesting observation as "this lady" is exactly equivalent in meaning to "this woman". So CalicoGirl's sensitivity is purely cultural, as in when and how you use terms like "lady" or "woman".
I suggest that CalicoGirl isn't offended by the word "***"
when it's used by a black rapper. Which it often is.
What I find hilarious about this is the spelling of the exclamation that the nurse supposedly uttered.
On a more serious note when I worked in Occupational Therapy in the 1980s we did have transgender patients. Mostly men transitioning to women. One of the things they all had in common was that they tried too hard to hurry the process along. Not the actual operation but for instance they would come in dressed as a man but within days they were dressing in frilly blouses, high heels, painting their nails, carrying handbags . Wearing all the things that they probably hadn't been able to wear in public. Like the woman in the news article they often overdressed and often looked ridiculous. It took a lot of counselling and guidance to help them but most of them did accept the help given and went on to lead happier lives .
On a more serious note when I worked in Occupational Therapy in the 1980s we did have transgender patients. Mostly men transitioning to women. One of the things they all had in common was that they tried too hard to hurry the process along. Not the actual operation but for instance they would come in dressed as a man but within days they were dressing in frilly blouses, high heels, painting their nails, carrying handbags . Wearing all the things that they probably hadn't been able to wear in public. Like the woman in the news article they often overdressed and often looked ridiculous. It took a lot of counselling and guidance to help them but most of them did accept the help given and went on to lead happier lives .
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