....and The Final Betrayal Arrives From Treason.....

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48357017
So the HOQ will reject the deal, they'll agree to another vote which means they'll have to withdraw A50 and wallop we are shackled to the EUSSR forever. I just wich they'd been honest from the start. You can have the referendum but we'll only accept remain. What a shower of treacherous quislings.

[Baldric]

Jim just doesn't get that OG.

[jim360]

Or he doesn't agree with it because democracy actually never worked like that at any point in history ever.

[Old_Geezer]

It's a flawed principle that one is allowed to scare folk away from the decision they made then retry the vote again. That is manipulation of the masses.

[naomi24]

Democracy means something else in Jim's world....

Handy that.

[jim360]

Nothing handy about the situation. It's a mess no matter what side you're on. But if a decision is damaging, and all signs say that it will be, then you shouldn't plough on regardless.

[naomi24]

We've heard it all before from you, Jim...many times. It still doesn't wash.

[david small]

So if the remainliers get their way, and after a while it all goes very very wrong, will they vanish back into the woodwork?

[gulliver1]

" Things can only get better "

[Baldric]

They are not going to get better under Labore that's for sure.

[gulliver1]

" Then things would get much better "

[pixie374]

Jim... //But if a decision is damaging, and all signs say that it will be,//

That is your opinion, the majority think the opposite. This really does look like overruling democracy because we gave "the wrong answer". And it is not more democratic, the more votes are held.... you have to carry them through first. Otherwise nobody will ever bother to vote again.

[Togo]

The UK is now naught but a bauble in the jewel box of the minority, globalist billionaires, who are determined to expand their vision of collectivism and hive activity by ensuring that the innovative and industrious British are finally brought to heel. They con the sheeple by calling it diversity, a strategy for peace, inclusivity and progress into a brave new world.(Heard that phrase before?) There will be "blood on the walls" before this is resolved. The people who yearn for democracy not demockracy will not be giving up now......whatever it takes. They will need to make their moves before the Lisbon treaty mk2 is fully ratified and a EUSSR armed force is allowed onto our streets. Before the referendum on the referendum is held, all voices in favour of leaving the pyramid scheme will be silenced and campaigning for it will be illegal. That has already started with the EUSSR Ober Gruppen Fuhrers deciding to "investigate" the funding of the Brexit party(what's it got to do with them?) Don't remember them "investigating" the funding for the Gina Millar putsch. They are of course setting the wheels in motion to call the Brexit clean sweep "illegal" which will require......you're ahead of me here aren't you...…..more elections.

[ToraToraTora]

.....and the VBQ will finally be happy togs

[Peter Pedant]

foo and den dare be paradise innit?

[Peter Pedant]

// " Things can only get better " 1// - you fing dat?

{I think I am catching the tone of this thread quite well, innit}

[gulliver1]

" Its life jim but not as we know it "

[Theland]

What a cow!

[Deskdiary]

Gulliver - if you honestly believe life will be better under the current shadow, then I can only assume you are on benefits or a in a lowly paid position. For everybody else their economic plans will be an absolute disaster. In fact, Labour would stifle business so those in low paid positions may well find they will have no position at all.

[ludwig]

//I just wich they'd been honest from the start. You can have the referendum but we'll only accept remain. //

They should have been honest and just said 'You can't have a referendum because we don't want the people to have a choice'.
That would've saved time.

[jim360]

// That is your opinion, the majority think the opposite. //

// We've heard it all before from you, Jim...many times. It still doesn't wash. //

In both cases my reply is the same: rather than simply state that it "doesn't wash", or that the majority think the opposite, why not actually explain, and cite, why all the concerns from farmers, businesses, economists, scientists, etc., about the damage that Brexit of any kind can do, are so utterly misplaced.