Cd-Day And Sexual Discrimination

[vetuste_ennemi]

Am I right or wrong in my observation that the participants in the Normandy landings were exclusively male? Might you have thought that at least Juno beach had a few feisty girls wading ashore?

It would be nice to think that any repetition (though Heaven forfend) of such a conflict would show a more equitable sexual balance.
, or do you you think not?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Last sentence: Do you think yes, or do you think not?

[anotheoldgit]

Not surprisingly since it was exclusively males who hit the beaches of Normandy.

But having said that I did see a lady, she was one of the Wrens who went over in the Royal Navy vessels.

[dannyk13]

VE, In 1944 there were no women combatants.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Did I say Cd-Day?

Off the record like.

[Rockrose]

//It would be nice to think that any repetition (though Heaven forfend) of such a conflict would show a more equitable sexual balance. //
This has been debated before and whilst some have said women should be on the front line - some men have stated not as it would put the men at risk!

[Sqad]

The whole proceeding was male dominate and no, I didn't see any sexual bias in the cover of the D Day landings.
In fact there was a short film showing the work of the SOE behind enemy lines in which the portraying of the bravery of women was portrayed.

[youngmafbog]

Different time, different place.

As for today, as RR as pointed out there are strong feelings both ways, but since we are never likely to see another D-Day landing it's a moot point.

[Old_Geezer]

You must be thinking of Double D day.
(With apologies to Family Guy.)

[Sqad]

Indeed YMG.

[JF85]

All roles in the military are open to women from this year. The decision was taken in light of available evidence from countries like Israel and Norway, where women have played an equal role for decades.

The original landings were largely informed by intelligence from agents inside occupied France, many of them female.

I am not sure why you think your question needs asking, or why you choose to misrepresent the usual name of D-Day, unless you have a specific point you want to make that validates such an insult to previous generations?

[Sqad]

Old_G LOL

[vetuste_ennemi]

My argument was not about D-Day which is ancient history, but about gender equality which is current moral attitudes.

In any future conflict ought not a modern army in the Western world (not, I suggest, an army in the non-Western world which wants to win any conflict it's engaged in) be representaive of the diverse communities (plural) it's fighting to defend (assuming that the diverse communities are agreed about what it is they plural want or are willing to defend). Token recognition of sexual diversity and cross-dressing such as the Argyll and Sutherland Highlanders is not enough, is it?

[vetuste_ennemi]

If you went to war you would need to know why you're risking your life, I would national home? have thought.

Am a feudal serf fighting for his liege lord?

Or am I a free man fighting for his national home?

[vetuste_ennemi]

If you went to war you would need to know why you're risking your life, I would have thought.

Am I a feudal serf fighting for his liege lord?

Or am I a free man fighting for his national home?

[vetuste_ennemi]

The AB editing facility and my HP lap top are not friends of each other, and neither of them are friends of me.

Life's an itch, don't you agree?

[JF85]

Thank you for that outstanding clarification. For some reason I thought terms like this 'Normandy landings' and 'Juno beach' related to the events of 1944, rather than to your deep respect for the 'non-Western world which wants to win any conflict it's engaged in'.

Until I read your post I was under the ridiculous belief that the tens of thousands who took part in the D-Day landings wanted to win.

I now understand that many of them took part because they didn't realise that fascism was only a threat to straight white men. Other communities had nothing to fear from Hitler.

Honestly, I feel such a fool.

[andy-hughes]

vetuste - // My argument was not about D-Day which is ancient history, but about gender equality which is current moral attitudes. //

Given that a seriously large number of people are still alive when D-Day took place, it is indeed history, but by no means is it in any way 'ancient' history.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Must open a thread inviting posters to suggest a collective noun for JF and similar, but avoiding the consonants W and K. Prize? A case of Burgundy, perhaps: Chablis or Chateau-Neuf-du-Pape? Well, maybe one bottle of each.

[JF85]

At last, free of the convention to observe mutual respect until the other abandons it, I can point out that very similar words crossed my mind this morning. I wondered what sort of Richard would use D-Day to take a cheap shot at the fact that the world outside their echo chamber moves on.

Women are perfectly capable of defending their country and have done for many years. The same is true of many other 'diverse communities (plural)' (not sure why you thought you were the only person to recognise the meaning of an '-ies' ending), and the UK was supported by a significant contingent of 'non-Western' troops, all of whom wanted to win, given that death was the main alternative.

I still don't really understand what point you were trying to make, but I see you take offence when your insult to so many is called out.

[vetuste_ennemi]

What a silly little fellow who can't recognise a satirical question.