Not A Dry Eye In The House.....

[ToraToraTora]

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/07/men-refused-4000000-scratchcard-win-using-stolen-card-sue-national-lottery-9854591/

[douglas9401]

Geezers you can understand, barristers not so much.

[agchristie]

Oh dear, sounds like the pair will be scratching around for a bit longer then...

[Prudie]

Good, far worse is some lawyer trying to plead their case because of their backgrounds. (I think that is also the point douglas is making?).
I thought Camelot had the technology to know exactly where a ticket was bought and what with.
If their story is true that 'John' from up North is an altruistic bloke...

[Spicerack]

Cameiot always seem to play their cards close to their chests (no pun intended) in these 'fraud' cases.
They will know that the card was stolen and who it belonged to.
Wonder did the owner get a nice non-disclosure pay-out.

[ladybirder]

Is the owner of the card entitled to the payout? Or is neither the owner nor this couple of scrotes (if they lose the case) entitled to it?

[aelmpvw]

it's always puzzled me how thieves manage to use stolen cards?

[sunny-dave]

Contactless, ael - they stay under £30 and stop as soon as the card is 'refused'

[goodgoalie]

I would have thought that the owner of the account would be entitled to the winnings - after all, it was their money that was used to buy the ticket, irrespective of whoever touched the card to the machine (if it was contactless).

[jennyjoan]

I wouldn't have those contactless cards about me. My bank sent me two cos I had lost my originals - I promptly contacted the bank and said no way hosay. Like £30 can buy a lot of scratch cards.

[Ken4155]

I don't agree that the owner of the card should collect the winnings. On that basis, if someone stole your car and used it as a getaway in a burglary, would you expect some of the ill gotten gains?

[goodgoalie]

But Ken, the card wasn't used in a burglary or any other kind of illegal activity. It was used to buy something - the scratchcard - which should then be the property of the owner of the card.

[Spicerack]

I doubt it's straightforward. Has the bank reimbursed the cardholder for losses? Was the cardholder in cahoots with the thieves?
Like I say, Camelot never gives much away. Don't want other toe-rags getting ideas.

[campbellking]

I had my bank details stolen a couple of years ago, and one of the things they fraudulently did was place a hundred pound bet with William Hill. I did wonder what it was on, the bank didn't let me know!

[agchristie]

The winning symbol was a 'safe'.

The irony!