Your Predictions On Brexit

[fender62]

will parliamnet pass any deal, can we leave without a deal, or does it have to be voted on.
how does it actually work..

[ichkeria]

There’s certainly time to revoke article 50.
If there wasn’t, there would not really be any argument about whether Brexit was going to happen or not

[JimF]

"JimF, do you really think that's realistic?"

Yes. In fact, I think it's essentially inevitable. Good article here:
https://blog.politics.ox.ac.uk/our-day-will-come-the-inevitability-of-irish-unification-as-brexit-approaches/

[ichkeria]

It isn’t going to happen in 2020-21

[pixie374]

Even if there was time to revoke it, ich. Do you really think that would be the right thing to do? Why are the opinions of remainers so much more important?

[Jackdaw33]

If we do not leave on 31st October there will be so much political unrest that parliament won't know what's hit it.

[Old_Geezer]

Achieving the referendum result will destroy neither party nor country. It'll move things on. No-deal support is neither posturing nor irresponsible; no-deal is merely the only legitimate honourable option left, and has been for some time; supporting it is merely acknowledging that fact.

[Old_Geezer]

Never mind asking for confirmation of the 2020 / 2021 bit. The 2020 and 2021-25 bits are already beyond belief.

[gulliver1]

J/D,18.04. If we "DO " leave on 31st October, there will be so much political unrest that Parliament won't know what's hit it.

[douglas9401]

'Political unrest'?

Is that when the modern day equivalent of the bewigged toff sniffs his scented hankie and sends the militarised constabulary to deal with dissent by any means required then 30 years later holds an enquiry in which lessons are learned?

It was ever so.

Revolution! It may be coming.

[pixie374]

It certainly will be if a referendum is not carried through. The trouble is... you can't argue with ego.

[david small]

I think it will drag on interminably until the remainers get their pound of leavers flesh. Unfair, unjust, no one said life was fair. Pass the sick bag Mabel.

[ichkeria]

What I think should happen is an attempt to get the negotiated deal passed by referendum but I cannot see that happening at the moment.
I don’t think Remainer opinions are more important btw

[fender62]

id rather go with a no deal, we will survive..if anything we will be free
from the chains of the corrupt eu, who cannot write off it's expenditure
make you wonder..where all that cash went..your taxes.

[david small]

Fender62 we’ll never be free of the corrupt, as long as we have holes in our bottie’s.

[fender62]

well at least we can look, and say silly ***

[askyourgran]

We've gone through all the permutations and still come up with nothing to satisfy everyone. Whatever the new PM comes up with it will be shouted down. No sense in carrying on. People are becoming fed up with our honourable gents and gentesses, there is a definite air of Leave ....with no Deal.

[Jackdaw33]

Quite right, Gran. And nice to see you back posting.

[jim360]

// Calico, to revoke Article 50 would require an act of Parliament and there would not be time to get it passed before 31st October. //

We've already seen that legislation can be passed within basically a couple of days. If there's the political will then it will happen.

In the long run the point is that no matter how many people here bang on about it, No Deal is not, and will never be, seen as a viable option by enough people for it to ever happen. Nor is it even clear that the majority of the people want that.

[pixie374]

It has already been voted for, Jim. Nobody would vote to leave... assuming certain deals. It is also not a case of "enough people". The answer was clearly "leave". And that obviously means without a deal. If there is a deal, genuinely beneficial to us, maybe... but May threw that option early on and made us look desperate.

[jim360]

The other thing to say about No Deal is that it resolves nothing: eventually people will have to face the fact that you can't not have a negotiated trading and security relationship with our nearest neighbours, so even for advocates of No Deal, the option exists as a means to an end. But it's only a threat to the EU if you accept that the option is damaging, and that's damage that people cannot ignore and shouldn't wish upon themselves or on anybody else.

No Deal is, at best, the equivalent of nuclear weapons, whose very purpose is never to be used but always to be just minutes away from being used if needed. It's meant to be a threat, to force a better deal. That threat has failed so far, and will only succeed in as much as it makes 31st October only a temporary deadline, if nothing else can be agreed by then. But when Nuclear Weapons fail to deter you still don't fire them, because everybody knows that doing so just sees everybody ruined.

No Deal will not happen, and it is not even remotely honourable. It's a scandal, and a failure of Brexit supporters, that what should have been only an extreme hypothetical outcome of all this has now become, for some, the only desirable result.