Don't Come Round Ere With Yer Common Sense.....

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-48636059
An unusual case of a Labour MP talking sense. Looks like Jezza's storm troopers are crushing the dissent.

[Gromit]

Tora,
I am equally surprised at your stance on this.
Perhaps you didn’t realise the protesters that you are supporting are all ROP and who normally murder gay people in their country of origin.

[spathiphyllum]

I too am surprised that you are blaming the "TROB" for not pandering to "TROP".

[ToraToraTora]

I know who they are, on this subject I agree with them.

[spathiphyllum]

It's kinda simple in my eyes. Home school yer kids.

[spathiphyllum]

"I know who they are, on this subject I agree with them."

OK, you may agree.. but the reasons for agreeing with them i'm sure differ massively.

[Gromit]

A small minority of religious bigots object to the curriculum at this school.
Perhaps that nice Mr Gove can fund (at the taxpayers expense) a Madras Free School, where they can preach their hate (and other interesting subjects) to the local kids.

[spathiphyllum]

TTT are you worried that teaching LGBT issues may make children more likely to become LGBT?

[ToraToraTora]

I'm struggling to see, gromit, why you seem to be in favour of sexualising of primary school children. Children of this age should not be burdened with the myriad of what goes on between adults at this age. Surely you can see that.

[spathiphyllum]

Teaching a child french doesn't make them french. Nor does it make them like or disliek french people. It also doesn't open them up for anyone to go and speak to them in random languages.

[Gromit]

Tora,
The lessons are not // sexualising children //.

[ToraToraTora]

gromit, why do primary school kids need do know about the activities of adults?

[jno]

he does sound very pro-Muslim. I wonder how he feels about Jews?

[jourdain2]

I feel that all I knew about sex at that age, was that boys were a d******ed nuisance who managed to wet the toilet seats and that they could wee up walls. My sister and I spent a lot of time practising against the garage wall - you could get quite high with a bit of effort! I actually agree with the Muslim parents - this is all being pushed at children who are far too young. Time enough when they are around 10 and upwards - apart from those poor girls who begin to menstruate very young; fortunately there are very few of them and they can be counselled individually.

[Old_Geezer]

Censorship ?

[Cloverjo]

I don’t think children are being taught about the specifics of gay sex, just that some couples are man/man or woman/woman, and that it's normal.

[Mamyalynne]

Exactly Clover, however there seems to be some who think sex manuals are to be handed out.

If children are kept in the dark about different family set ups, then the bullying etc that this trying to quell will continue apace.

[campbellking]

My married friends are the long-term foster parents of a primary school pupil, they also happen to be a same sex couple. There's no point in pretending that these relationships don't exist and that children are not going to encounter them, much the same as there will be children from single parent families going to the school.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Let me quote one rather mouthy person leading the protests outside the school:

"This program is teaching our children that it's OK to be gay and to be Muslim. Who taught Mr Moffat about Islam? I tell you, Mufti Moffat, it is not!".

Let's look at the first sentence. If this is a correct understanding of the new"relationship studies" or whatever it's called in the new legally prescribed syllabus, then this would amount (in Islamic, and possibly other eyes) to the endorsement, and, worse, the promotion of sin. The parents in this case would have a point, would they not? Unless, of course, you don't "respect" the traditions of some of Britain's newer cultures.

[Peter Pedant]

blimey free tee
if you join ISIS - they wont let you back into the country !

[campbellking]

Here's some more 'astonishing' news, there are charities in place that support gay Muslims, the largest in this country bring Imaan. There are gay people in all religions, let's stop pretending they don't exist.