Rory Stewart.

[Bigbad]

After being eliminated last night, Mr Stewart said

“A no deal brexit would be catastrophic or that you can’t negotiate a new deal with Europe
probably were truths that people weren’t quite ready to hear.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-48698813/tory-leadership-mps-not-ready-for-no-deal-warnings-says-stewart

Are these the words of a sore loser?

He has also said that he wouldn’t serve in the cabinet under any of the remaining candidates.

Has he shot himself in the foot?

[Bigbad]

Thanks for the article dannyk13.
The Daily Mail don’t like Mr. Stewart, do they?
“He came close to looking unhinged”
That’s exactly what I think about Corbyn. Every time he speaks he seems to get more unstable with every sentence and by the end, seems completely deranged.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Is "opacity" this week's AB word of the week?

[Cloverjo]

I’m very worried. A few years ago the possibility of Trump being POTUS and Johnson as PM was a huge unlikely joke. Now it seems that is what we’re getting. What is happening to everyone?

[Bigbad]

Why not, v_e.
We get the bore fest of Mr. Javid’s upbringing every time he opens his mouth.
Or should I be calling him “Saj”?

[Old_Geezer]

I've not checked it out in depth but I'm a little unclear of these "cheating" allegations. I guess one can request certain supporters to vote for a rival, but so far it seems pointless. After all, what happened the vote before last. Raab went out and Stewart stayed in one more round. Neither were likely to get to be PM anyway, and the one talking sense went before the male version of Mrs. May. (Fiddle around the edges of the deal to no real advantage and vote yet again, because the last thing I want is for us to really leave.) What advantage was there in that ? It seems pure madness.

[Bigbad]

What’s happening Cloverjo, is that the vote wasn’t implemented, the remainers threw their toys out of the pram, meaning the remain MP's had something to cling on to, and Mrs May wanted to roll over and capitulate on everything.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Javid did it for me in the master debate, Bigbad, when he played the Muslim card. Previously I thought he was straight. No longer.

[Cloverjo]

OG, I suppose when it comes down to the party members’ vote, BJ wanted Stewart out of the way.
He’s a shoe-in now anyway.
I’d struggle to recognise the others in the street, apart from Gove.

[Old_Geezer]

My opinion was he was going anyway. One is unlikely to be able to cheat by preventing someone from voting for a candidate; and it was the supporters deserting Stewart that sunk him, not those supporting Javid. The weird bit was the deserters being in his camp in the first place.

[vetuste_ennemi]

They are all liars and we will still be subjects of the newly "elected" (that's a joke, get it?) Commission after Halloween.

[Bigbad]

Javid has never done it for me, v_e.
I know he’s (allegedly) not a practicing Muslim, but I’d hate to see a Muslim PM.
So who is left then? (Apart fro Boris).

I think Jeremy Hunt is a very good orator, but he’s a remainer, and appears to be set to ramp up project fear later.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48699594

Although Mr. Gove was a key figure in the Brexit campaign, he’s kissed a bit too much Theresa May ass for my liking. He backed her through all her lousy attempts, claiming it was delivering Brexit.

[ToraToraTora]

He echoes what got us into this. It's monumentally silly to tell the opposition your limits before going to the table. No wonder we got tub cuffed on prime time. As Bojo says we must be prepared to leave with no deal if necessary. If the EUSSR won't budge we leave and firefight the issues. The deals will be done after Halloween not before.

[naomi24]

v_e. //Previously I thought he [Javid] was straight.//

Really? I'm astonished!

[ToraToraTora]

All these warnings of no deal Armageddon remind me of project fear prior to the vote in the first place. These are the last thrashings of people who are so inadequate they want to suck on the EUSSR teet forever and will give up anything to do so. Bojo, get us out now!

[vetuste_ennemi]

Anybody who voted for the new European treaty (i.e. May's "deal") is disqualified in this poster's eyes as someone who wants to leave the EU.

That's all of them, isn't it? Including JRM.

I think the agendum is (we can't get out/don't know how to get out.. so )keep our seats as long as we can by deferring an election. I have some sympathy with this position. A Corbyn government would be far worse than the wildest imaginings of Project Fear..

[Khandro]

Bb. //We get the bore fest of Mr. Javid’s upbringing every time he opens his mouth. //

Does he think he's the only person to have started out with £1. ?
I can beat that over and over, like millions of others I've frequently found myself with £0. and had to start gain (even minus £0 !)

[Bigbad]

Precisely, Khandro. Bur he so loves to tell us his father was a Pakistani immigrant with just a pound in this pocket.

[Old_Geezer]

Shamefully they did all vote for it at the end; but I suspect they all knew it'd fail anyway, so decided to show loyalty for and unity with the party for a change. Folk who consistently voted for it are more suspect.

[mushroom25]

//Or should I be calling him “Saj”? //

yes - but if you're going to do that, it must be preceded by "The".

[vetuste_ennemi]

(A "private" address to Khandro. OK, I've been homeless, jobless and broke at one stage in my life, and all at the same time. It was very unpleasant. Very few people on this site will have experienced any far less all of these. But I never blamed other people or "society" for my misfortunes.)