To The Lib Non Dems On Here.

[ToraToraTora]

struggling to get an answer on another thread from a party member so I thought I'd throw it open to the floor. Are you embarrassed that your party has openly declared that the result of the referendum should be ignored - *&^*%cks to brexit - ? Do you agree with the stance? thanks.

[Old_Geezer]

And for consistency, do you think that the result of the Libs leadership vote should be ignored.

[ichkeria]

If you are referring to me, I
answered the “question” twice.
I don’t think the Lib dems ate undemocratic.
It would be odd if I did, wouldn’t it.
And I am therefore not in the least “embarrassed”.
How many Lib Dem members’ responses are you expecting.
To save you the bother in advance, if anyone else does respond they’ll say the same as me, unsurprisingly.
Because they are of a different opinion to you.

[fiction-factory]

I'm not a lib dem but i can understand their position- at least theya re being clear about what they want, and they can argue that 48% of voters voted to remain and now 3 years on (given the population changes as some younger voters have replaced older voters who have passed away, and given that we know more about how awkward Brexit seems to be and given that many are fed up and just want to move on), so their veiw may now be the majority view.

[jno]

lol, keep asking the question over and over till you get the answer you want ... where have I heard that accusation before?

[ToraToraTora]

ich you have not answered the question. Here it is again, answer this one, not one you made up yourself, this question is not about whether you think they are democratic or not: "Are you embarrassed that your party has openly declared that the result of the referendum should be ignored - *&^*%cks to brexit - ? Do you agree with the stance? "

[ToraToraTora]

see, FF had a go.
FF so do you then think that they are justified in calling for the result of the referendum to be ignored?

[ToraToraTora]

ich: "I don’t think the Lib dems ate undemocratic.
It would be odd if I did, wouldn’t it. " - I didn't ask that, I already know the answer to that.

[fiction-factory]

Of course they are justified if enough people vote for them. It is conceivable that a rerun of the ballot now would give a different result.

[ichkeria]

I agree with Lib Dem stance on Brexit
Are you surprised?
I just don’t want to get into
another slanging match

[ToraToraTora]

not at all, it seems you are not embarrassed ignoring the democratic will of the majority, thanks. Didn't hurt did it?

[Theland]

They don't know shame.

[ichkeria]

You don’t ask questions Tora: you just stamp your feet and stick a question mark on the end:-)
Member of Lib Dems supports Lib Dem party.
Who knew?
But I’m not going round the houses with you for the millionth time about why my opinion differs from yours.

[ToraToraTora]

ich: I asked a question, after a lot of bluster about what I did not ask, finally you answered it, I thanked you. I now know that you are not embarrassed ignoring democracy. I suspect a common trait among Lib NonDems. Now I know, thank you. Not sure why you are stamping your feet, no houses to go round, you have already done it.

[ichkeria]

What I mean is I don’t want another debate about why I think the Liberal Democrats are democratic. And why you don’t.
I am quite calmly responding to a “question” to which you already must have known the answer.
I can’t think there’s any more moisture to be got out of the mangle on that one.
Anyway, the question here is directed presumably at other members of the Lib Dems here (if there are any) so maybe they’ll oblige you :-)

[diddlydo]

Definitely scrap the referendum result as lots who voted leave are now dead. Simple really.

[ToraToraTora]

ich: "I don’t want another debate about why I think the Liberal Democrats are democratic. And why you don’t. " - i don't recall us having a debate on that, you declare you think they. They have clearly demonstrated that they are not, however I have not yet attempted to debate that point. I suspect a required trait of a Lib non dem is to be able to find no anomaly in the juxtaposition between their name and their actions.

[ichkeria]

I suppose in fairness the concept of a member of a political party actually supporting their party’s main plank of policy is less familiar to Labour and the Tories :-)
The Lib Dem leadership contest was a pretty dull affair as Jo Swinson admitted. What with all that agreeing politely. I’ll take that any day :-)

[ToraToraTora]

"I suppose in fairness the concept of a member of a political party actually supporting their party’s main plank of policy is less familiar to Labour and the Tories :-) " - so you'll support what ever the leadership decree? now where have we heard that before?

[ichkeria]

Lol nice try for a wind up.
For “where have we heard that before” I prefer jno at 17.43

A bit closer to the mark :-)

[Peter Pedant]

// I just don’t want to get into
another slanging match//

hi itch - yeah agreed

another fang lang dang post from free tee
oh gawd as he would probably say

what was the question?
would the lib non dems doo dah day?

yes free tee I think they probably would - or not