Was President Trump Racist To Rightly Describe Baltimore District A "disgusting, Rat And Rodent-Infested Mess"?

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49149759

[Togo]

Just in case you didn't want to know. The American broadcaster PBS is more left wing than our very own Beep Beep See. Therefor they must be racist for making the original documentary highlighting the rat infestations. Yes?

[jim360]

I don't know, but I can't say I've seen Andy call people that, even when he seriously disagrees with them. On the other hand, all of those are direct quotes from Trump. But, yeah, sure. Andy's the worst.

[Togo]

//"psycho", "loser", "witch", "stupid", "fool", "loser", "dope", "pathetic", "moron, "clown", "lowlife",//

Are they Jim's examples of racist language?

[jim360]

No, but they're not exactly the language of a dignified politician either. So far as I'm aware, Trump hasn't called anyone a n-word or the like. He just attacked Obama for some crazy nonsense about Obama's not being born in the US, keeping that up for years. He said that Mexico was "sending us their rapists, their murders... some, I assume, are good people". He mistook a reporter for a representative of the "Congressional Black Caucus", and kept doing so even as she corrected him.

I could go on. But his supporters won't care. Facts have long since lost any relevance to analysing Trump.

[Togo]

Dignified politicians.....ooohh like Tom Watson? Or Livingstone? Or dozens of other bad mouths from our own, mostly left wing marxist, bunch of chancers? Bless.

[jim360]

That other people may be as bad as Trump doesn't change the fact that Trump is objectively rude, insulting, arrogant and bigoted.

[andy-hughes]

jim - // How many people has Andy Hughes called "psycho", "loser", "witch", "stupid", "fool", "loser", "dope", "pathetic", "moron, "clown", "lowlife", etc etc etc, lately? //

I am as always willing to be corrected, but to the best of my knowledge, I have not used any of those terms to refer to anyone.

[Togo]

We must unfortunately come to the only logical conclusion that some of us have suspected all along, that being. Most of our resident left wingers and marxists, and indeed those who do not advertise their failings on this site, will happily listen to bare faced lies, wicked accusations, and fabrications as long as there is a façade of false civility but blanche and cower when the truth is spoken in a straight, if blunt, manner. Bless...…..poor snowies.

[ludwig]

No he wasn't being racist.

Every time someone shouts 'racist' in a kind of knee jerk way to criticise someone else, it becomes more and more meaningless.

[Togo]

Ludwig....the luvvies had so much success, branding anyone that they wanted to smear with the, most often undeserved, slur that they are like junkies who can't give it up. It was a new and exciting false tag at one time and was liable to shut down any counter argument to their self serving scatter brained opinions. As in the boy who cried wolf warning fable it has rendered the insult virtually meaningless. Hence the other now well worn "isms" and "obics" that are themselves fast wearing threadbare. The truth always eventually emerges the longer it takes the harder it is to swallow for the willing believers of the lies, to say nothing of the easily duped consumers of them.

[ludwig]

It's so overused, the meaning of the word is actually changing. You can be called racist for simply pointing out that someone is a certain race, or criticising someone that is a different race to yourself, or even inadvertently mentioning that there are different races in the first place. The whole concept has disappeared up it's own arris, and as I say becomes more meaningless by the day.

Of course, none of this changes the fact that Trump is a complete twaaaaart, but that's a different question.

[Peter Pedant]

// jim - // How many people has Andy Hughes called "psycho", "loser", "witch", "stupid", "fool", "loser", "dope", "pathetic", "moron, "clown", "lowlife", etc etc etc, lately? //

that is the vocabulary of the usual suspects innit - AOG and his racist pals

Andie I am happy to assert such crudities do not touch your lips

I had to giggle - yes snigger - laugh even ( Boris rule of three there note) that I had clocked up around half of them
stupid man from Ni
and thick or moron from Balders
I wear my badges with pride

[Peter Pedant]

oh can I point out that the boy who cried wolf
whilst true and may be inspirational
isnt a fable ?

[vetuste_ennemi]

//I wear my badges with pride//

As such badges should be, Pet. We honour our war heroes, don't we? Even the Purple Fart.