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How Many More Young Lives Will Be Lost Before Some Form Of Positive Action Takes Place? All We Seem To Hear Is "that No Arrests Have Been Made".
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andy-hughes
/// If you can find any post on any section of this site when I have used the term 'racist' when referring to mass immigration and a rising crime rate, I will be very interested to see it. ///
Perhaps not the actual word 'Racist', but you repeatedly accuse me of having a obsession with race.
Yes I have had a look and came up with this example that you posted only yesterday on this very thread:
/// As for the notion that any AB'er should be more upset because victims are black speaks to your own daily obsession with race ///
Isn't that your snide way of calling me a racist?
/// If you can find any post on any section of this site when I have used the term 'racist' when referring to mass immigration and a rising crime rate, I will be very interested to see it. ///
Perhaps not the actual word 'Racist', but you repeatedly accuse me of having a obsession with race.
Yes I have had a look and came up with this example that you posted only yesterday on this very thread:
/// As for the notion that any AB'er should be more upset because victims are black speaks to your own daily obsession with race ///
Isn't that your snide way of calling me a racist?
THECORBYLOON
I can only go on what is reported on and in the majority of cases it And regarding is "No arrests have been made".
And regarding your "22,041 knife and offensive weapon offences were formally dealt with by the CJS in the year to March"
How many end up in court and later convicted, have you any figures for that? Because I never see many convicted and sent to jail, if they are then we hear very little of them, the Jails must be brimming over.
I can only go on what is reported on and in the majority of cases it And regarding is "No arrests have been made".
And regarding your "22,041 knife and offensive weapon offences were formally dealt with by the CJS in the year to March"
How many end up in court and later convicted, have you any figures for that? Because I never see many convicted and sent to jail, if they are then we hear very little of them, the Jails must be brimming over.
From my previous link,
"The number of juvenile offenders convicted or cautioned for a knife or offensive weapon offence has increased by almost half (48%) between the year ending March 2015 and the year ending March 2019, while the increase in adult offenders over the same period was
smaller (31%). However adult offenders accounted for 74% of the total increase in cautions
and convictions received for these offences between the year ending March 2015 and the year ending March 2019.
Offenders are now more likely to receive an immediate custodial sentence for a knife and offensive weapon offence and for longer.
In the year ending March 2019 37% of knife and offensive weapon offences resulted in an immediate custodial sentence compared with 22% in the year ending March
2009. The average length of the custodial sentences received also increased over the
same period, from 5.5 months to 8.1 months, the longest since the series began."
"The number of juvenile offenders convicted or cautioned for a knife or offensive weapon offence has increased by almost half (48%) between the year ending March 2015 and the year ending March 2019, while the increase in adult offenders over the same period was
smaller (31%). However adult offenders accounted for 74% of the total increase in cautions
and convictions received for these offences between the year ending March 2015 and the year ending March 2019.
Offenders are now more likely to receive an immediate custodial sentence for a knife and offensive weapon offence and for longer.
In the year ending March 2019 37% of knife and offensive weapon offences resulted in an immediate custodial sentence compared with 22% in the year ending March
2009. The average length of the custodial sentences received also increased over the
same period, from 5.5 months to 8.1 months, the longest since the series began."
Should we give the perpetrators a good talking to?
A severe birching? Solitary confinement for several years? Incarceration in very strict prison for many many years? Swing them? Community service with tags?
Send them all to an island to survive as they see fit?
Pretend nothing happened and carry on? Give them intense one to one therapy and Counselling and financial security? Answers on a postcard to Labour HQ Marxville, fantasy island.
A severe birching? Solitary confinement for several years? Incarceration in very strict prison for many many years? Swing them? Community service with tags?
Send them all to an island to survive as they see fit?
Pretend nothing happened and carry on? Give them intense one to one therapy and Counselling and financial security? Answers on a postcard to Labour HQ Marxville, fantasy island.
The full Enoch Powells speach:
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AOG - // andy-hughes
/// If you can find any post on any section of this site when I have used the term 'racist' when referring to mass immigration and a rising crime rate, I will be very interested to see it. ///
Perhaps not the actual word 'Racist', but you repeatedly accuse me of having a obsession with race. //
There is no 'perhaps ' about it, I have never used the term 'racist' towards you, unfortunately, you are not able to say the same.
Yes I have had a look and came up with this example that you posted only yesterday on this very thread:
/// As for the notion that any AB'er should be more upset because victims are black speaks to your own daily obsession with race ///
Isn't that your snide way of calling me a racist? //
I don't do 'snide' AOG, if I wanted to call you a racist, I would do so - but fortunately for you, I do not possess your gutter levels of insults, so I refrain from being so crass, but again, you cannot say the same.
I hope you will remember getting away with it next time you bleat about 'Site Rules'.
And of course, you are still side-stepping my point about you accusing AB'ers of 'protecting' knife criminals.
So - side-stepping a valid point of debate, and being extremely rude instead - another normal day.
/// If you can find any post on any section of this site when I have used the term 'racist' when referring to mass immigration and a rising crime rate, I will be very interested to see it. ///
Perhaps not the actual word 'Racist', but you repeatedly accuse me of having a obsession with race. //
There is no 'perhaps ' about it, I have never used the term 'racist' towards you, unfortunately, you are not able to say the same.
Yes I have had a look and came up with this example that you posted only yesterday on this very thread:
/// As for the notion that any AB'er should be more upset because victims are black speaks to your own daily obsession with race ///
Isn't that your snide way of calling me a racist? //
I don't do 'snide' AOG, if I wanted to call you a racist, I would do so - but fortunately for you, I do not possess your gutter levels of insults, so I refrain from being so crass, but again, you cannot say the same.
I hope you will remember getting away with it next time you bleat about 'Site Rules'.
And of course, you are still side-stepping my point about you accusing AB'ers of 'protecting' knife criminals.
So - side-stepping a valid point of debate, and being extremely rude instead - another normal day.
andy-hughes
/// There is no 'perhaps ' about it, I have never used the term 'racist' towards you, unfortunately, you are not able to say the same. ///
When have I ever called you a racist?
Before you accuse me of being rude, you should first look at the numerous post you have entered where you have been extremely rude to anyone who happens to hold a different opinion than your own extremely opinionated rude self.
And please do not refer me to the Site Rules, perhaps as a moderator, you should first take action against those of your Ike who continuously break Site Rules, rather than your constant attacks on naomi, retrocop, myself and others.
/// There is no 'perhaps ' about it, I have never used the term 'racist' towards you, unfortunately, you are not able to say the same. ///
When have I ever called you a racist?
Before you accuse me of being rude, you should first look at the numerous post you have entered where you have been extremely rude to anyone who happens to hold a different opinion than your own extremely opinionated rude self.
And please do not refer me to the Site Rules, perhaps as a moderator, you should first take action against those of your Ike who continuously break Site Rules, rather than your constant attacks on naomi, retrocop, myself and others.
AOG - // andy-hughes
/// There is no 'perhaps ' about it, I have never used the term 'racist' towards you, unfortunately, you are not able to say the same. ///
When have I ever called you a racist? //
As usual AOG, your memory is as short as your temper - I refer you to your part in an exchange - which you will see, took place only nine days ago -
AOG - // Well there you have it, they are clearly uncivilised, then being civilised as we are, that makes us better or indeed superior to them, which in turn by the definition of racism, that also makes you a racist Andy. //
21:25 Fri 02nd Aug 2019
I hope that refreshes your memory?
I invited you to look for an occasion when I called you a racist, you admitted there would not be one, but here is yours, in black and white.
And you continue -
// And please do not refer me to the Site Rules, perhaps as a moderator, you should first take action against those of your Ike who continuously break Site Rules, rather than your constant attacks on naomi, retrocop, myself and others. //
As I have pointed out previously, and again I am sure your memory has conveniently failed you, as it does when it suits - I do not need lessons in Moderation from (the likes of) you.
As for my 'attacks on Naomi, Retrocop and others - the two individuals named are more than capable of giving as good as they get, and they certainly don't need your skirts to hide behind.
Now that we've cleared up that nonsense, is there any danger of you responding to my question - for the third time, who on here is 'protecting' criminals, as per your accusation?
If as I expect, your memory has failed you yet again, here is what you said –
//I don't know why some of you are protecting these killers, seeing that a high proportion of their victims are young black persons.
You should be condemning them and joining me in asking why no action seems to be taking place over these crime that are blighting our towns and cities. //
14:03 Fri 09th Aug 2019
/// There is no 'perhaps ' about it, I have never used the term 'racist' towards you, unfortunately, you are not able to say the same. ///
When have I ever called you a racist? //
As usual AOG, your memory is as short as your temper - I refer you to your part in an exchange - which you will see, took place only nine days ago -
AOG - // Well there you have it, they are clearly uncivilised, then being civilised as we are, that makes us better or indeed superior to them, which in turn by the definition of racism, that also makes you a racist Andy. //
21:25 Fri 02nd Aug 2019
I hope that refreshes your memory?
I invited you to look for an occasion when I called you a racist, you admitted there would not be one, but here is yours, in black and white.
And you continue -
// And please do not refer me to the Site Rules, perhaps as a moderator, you should first take action against those of your Ike who continuously break Site Rules, rather than your constant attacks on naomi, retrocop, myself and others. //
As I have pointed out previously, and again I am sure your memory has conveniently failed you, as it does when it suits - I do not need lessons in Moderation from (the likes of) you.
As for my 'attacks on Naomi, Retrocop and others - the two individuals named are more than capable of giving as good as they get, and they certainly don't need your skirts to hide behind.
Now that we've cleared up that nonsense, is there any danger of you responding to my question - for the third time, who on here is 'protecting' criminals, as per your accusation?
If as I expect, your memory has failed you yet again, here is what you said –
//I don't know why some of you are protecting these killers, seeing that a high proportion of their victims are young black persons.
You should be condemning them and joining me in asking why no action seems to be taking place over these crime that are blighting our towns and cities. //
14:03 Fri 09th Aug 2019
I said all I wanted to say on Sunday and unlike you I don't find the need to carry on arguing with the likes of you several days after.
But I can't but help to address your latest ramblings.
/// I do not need lessons in Moderation from (the likes of) you. ///
Then to a person even as pompous as you should be aware of the Site Rules.
/// We understand that debates get heated, but personal attacks and abusive language will not be tolerated. ///
Yes in this instance I have also broken the Site Rules, but since you as a moderator can get away with why can't an humble ABer like myself also enjoy the same privilege?
/// As for my 'attacks on Naomi, Retrocop and others - the two individuals named ///
The two individuals eh?
A better person would have put "fellow ABers".
/// or adopt your usual response when your nasty insults are rumbled, and your 'What me?' hypocrisy is exposed - and simply walk away from the thread and emerge elsewhere to start again? ///
/// You can add an absence of moral fibre to the list of undesirable character traits which are displayed daily on this site. ///
Now after all your insults are you now ready to cease your insults and attacks on your fellow ABers, or do you want to carry on bickering, which the AB Editor has already informed us, won't be tolerated?
But I can't but help to address your latest ramblings.
/// I do not need lessons in Moderation from (the likes of) you. ///
Then to a person even as pompous as you should be aware of the Site Rules.
/// We understand that debates get heated, but personal attacks and abusive language will not be tolerated. ///
Yes in this instance I have also broken the Site Rules, but since you as a moderator can get away with why can't an humble ABer like myself also enjoy the same privilege?
/// As for my 'attacks on Naomi, Retrocop and others - the two individuals named ///
The two individuals eh?
A better person would have put "fellow ABers".
/// or adopt your usual response when your nasty insults are rumbled, and your 'What me?' hypocrisy is exposed - and simply walk away from the thread and emerge elsewhere to start again? ///
/// You can add an absence of moral fibre to the list of undesirable character traits which are displayed daily on this site. ///
Now after all your insults are you now ready to cease your insults and attacks on your fellow ABers, or do you want to carry on bickering, which the AB Editor has already informed us, won't be tolerated?
Mr aog
This one didn't get away. An arrest for GBH made soon after the event.
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This one didn't get away. An arrest for GBH made soon after the event.
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