Good God, This Woman Really Is A Fruit Cake

[youngmafbog]

With todays equality laws how can she even start to suggest this?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7367795/Critics-slam-radical-plans-Lib-Dem-leader-Jo-Swinson-stop-jailing-female-criminals.html#comments

[New Judge]

//Jo Swinson's Lib Dems propose to only jail women ‘if a prison sentence is likely’//

Women (and indeed men) only get committed to custody "if a prison sentence is likely". I've never heard of anybody - man or woman - being given a custodial sentence if prison was anything other that likely.

The move is said to be aimed at addressing the serious shortage of prison places and prison staff. There's a simple answer to that - build more prisons and employ more staff.

[dannyk13]

Is this woman in cloud cuckoo land?

[Mozz71]

In her defense, its the Daily Mail, so I'm sure its written to with the intention of making her look like a lunatic, but ignoring that and taking it at face value: She's a lunatic.

[Zacs-Master]

Does she mean ‘not given bail’?

[andy-hughes]

Mozz - // In her defense, its the Daily Mail, so I'm sure its written to with the intention of making her look like a lunatic ... //

Let's be honest, she gave them a seriously long head start!!

[DTCwordfan]

Maybe she should marry JC, the wedding of the century......?

[ToraToraTora]

as I said on the last Swinson thread, she's a real contender for the MAABOF crown!, completely radio! Why do the Lib NonDems get these eejits for leader? She's starting to make abacus look sensible!

[THELOONYCORBYN]

Just another CorbynMonoxide....."promoted" by circumstances to a position so far above her paygrade youd get vertigo when you realise how high above it, it actually is...

...and just like the terrorists friend its not until these fools are in these positions you get to actually find out how dangerous their ideology and lack of thought processing really is...

[marval]

God help us if she ever got to power.

[New Judge]

//Does she mean ‘not given bail’?//

That might make sense, Zacs, if she's simply talking about decisions whether to remand somebody in custody or release them on bail until the completion of proceedings. If she is, she (or at least her advisors) should be aware that, apart from exceptions in one or two very limited circumstances, the likelihood (or not) of a custodial sentence is not a factor which judges or magistrates should consider when deciding whether or not a defendant should be released on bail.,

It's difficult to make out what she is really suggesting from the Mail's report but I believe her proposals go a bit further than that. For my part, leaving aside Bail Act decisions, I believe it is vanishingly unlikely that anybody in the UK would be sentenced to custody when it is not warranted under the sentencing guidelines.

[pixie374]

It does say " only remanded in custody if a prison sentence is likely".
Ymb, for the umpteenth time... equality is not about treating women as if they are men. It is working out what is most effective for each.

[New Judge]

//It does say " only remanded in custody if a prison sentence is likely".//

Thanks for that, pixie. If that is the case I would suggest that (a) Ms Swinson should brush up on the Bail Act, 1976 and (b) she should let us know how many people (or women only if she must) she suggests are remanded in custody when a custodial sentence is unlikely.

[davidchapman]

first of all... daily mail is an EXTREMELY right winged bias site that spins alt facts... not the best choice for citation...

Kinda funny though how conservatives throw fits about curbing the right to own an gun, but have NO PROBLEM with a law that DOESNT allow the possession of a knife!!! Hypocrite much?

Obviously, the motion to stop allowing women to be imprisoned is stupid and discriminatory on its face. But stop making it seem like ONLY the dems have bad ideas.... you voted for trump after all.

[Togo]

//Ymb, for the umpteenth time... equality is not about treating women as if they are men.//

Stupid Boy......It's all about treating men as if they were women. (^_*)

[New Judge]

//Kinda funny though how conservatives throw fits about curbing the right to own an gun, but have NO PROBLEM with a law that DOESNT allow the possession of a knife!!! Hypocrite much?//

This is A UK site and in the UK there is no general right to own a gun.

//But stop making it seem like ONLY the dems have bad ideas.... you voted for trump after all.//

I don't know of too many people in the UK who voted for Trump (or for his opponent).

[pixie374]

Lol, Togo... neither is necessary or helpful x

[Togo]

Kiss, kiss, for Pixie.

[youngmafbog]

"equality is not about treating women as if they are men. It is working out what is most effective for each."

Oh right, so not equal then.

What rot.

[youngmafbog]

"It is working out what is most effective for each."

Kitchen sink for you then.

[pixie374]

Morning ymb... equal, not identical. They don't mean the same thing.
And... if you honestly believe women are most effective at the kitchen sink... that might explain a lot why we haven't come too far. I take it you have actually met some women at some point? Lol.