If They Say Boris Cant Prorogue Parliament...

[THELOONYCORBYN]

Then how comes it was ok for John Major to do it ? (the man who basically damaged the country by signing control of the UK over to the eussr via maastricht

Its now illegal, its anti democratic (oh the irony of that one is simply breathtaking !)

Scottish judge has temporarily refused to make emergency order stopping Boris proroguing p'ment

[jim360]

Well, credit to you for being consistent then, TTT -- and my apologies if I assumed or implied otherwise. I still maintain that powers that are legal can be abused, mind. Proroguing Parliament until or during October 31st would have been one such example; although in this case it was never really a threat, because Johnson's aim is to reach a new Deal, not leave without one.

[Old_Geezer]

Due legal process to test decisions is fine when there is reason to think there's something wrong with it. Triggering due legal process to test a decision that's had many previous used and therefore is fine by precedent in order to try to get one's own way seems to be a deliberately frivolous waste of a judge's time.

Personally as long as there's some rules regarding frequency I don't see why the government in charge shouldn't decide break times.

Bercow shows worrying signs of having lost touch with reality more and more as time goes on. Pity the public can't have a VONC in him.

[Old_Geezer]

Uses

[ToraToraTora]

indeed, as I've said all along, if the opposition think you are prepared to use the nuclear option you probably wont have to. We all want a deal but we should be prepared to leave without if the EUSSR give us no choice by trying to force conditions on us that no nation could countenance.

[THECORBYLOON]

OG, if there were no merit for the case at the Court of Session, why has it been brought forward rather than dismissed out of hand?

[Old_Geezer]

You'd have to ask the judge why they couldn't or wouldn't make a firm decision. Who else would know ? Maybe they have remainer leanings and hopes to find a loophole; no, that can't be it. Perhaps they reached the stage in life when they're more indecisive, surely not. Maybe it'll just remain one of those legal mysteries.

[mushroom25]

there was no need for an interdict, simply because the full hearing (even giving due time for the judgment) will take place and conclude before the earliest prorogue date of the 13th. the hearing has been pulled forward, but it needn't have been.

[CrapAtCryptics]

There is still 2 trump cards to be played even if the remainers do get some degree of success from their challenges. Ignoring a vote of no confidence for 14 days and then closing Parliament over the 31st by calling an election. The PM chooses the date.

[THELOONYCORBYN]

"The commons speaker Bercow said,'It's an offence against the democratic process'

Unlike not accepting the result of a legal and democratically held referendum...what that called/classed as ?

That odious little megalomaniac of a man is near if not top of the list of people who need to be removed from office ASAP

[dannyk13]

Loony , He should purely on the grounds that he is supposed to be unbiased and blatantly is not.However it is difficult thing to do:-
https://www.quora.com/Can-the-speaker-of-the-house-of-commons-UK-be-removed

[Peter Pedant]

so the Boris acts unlawfully and an AB deep thinker says brightly
Oh lets fire the speaker !

// However it is difficult thing to do:-
https://www.quora.com/Can-the-speaker-of-the-house-of-commons-UK-be-removed//

it is the usual thing about making people independent
they act independently and people say oh no no no !

did they say lotal addresses from both houses of parliament ?

the last one was 1697 - corruption
Speaker Martin who was going to be dismissed
went on his own accord ( a deal)
and THEN when he turned up in
The House of Lords all togged up
and they said - what are you doing here?
he said o it was part of the deal ......

[webbo3]

what are they going to do with the money when they lose.

https://www.gofundme.com/f/DefendDemocracy

[webbo3]

look at this one..

Simon Evans donated £20
I want to defend parliamentary democracy and prevent the slide towards fascism.

[Peter Pedant]

// I can personally accept that Johnson's decision is legal,//

I think it is legal - I think a pm can do something like this

[cassa333]

Remain have tried every legal trick in the book and think it quite fine to do so.

The minute Brexit gets one over on them they have the biggest hissyfit in the world.

BJ has used a legal parliamentary measure in an attempt to get things done and remain don’t like it.

If remain had spent as much time working with leave we would be in a much better place. But they can’t or won’t.

[Zacs-Master]

I’m not sure anyone or anything has ‘got one over’ on leave voters this far. We’re still members of the EU for the foreseeable.

[Deskdiary]

Seeing the ageing Hammas supporting Marxist hippie (who has always hated Europe), the Mao admirer and IRA supporter, and the over-promoted well-known racist, the three of whom shadow the three most important jobs Government, getting all swivel-eyed suggests to me Boris has them rattled.

[Deskdiary]

Crikey - how could I have forgotten about Abbott's love of Mao as well.



The woman is a full blown dribbling total and utter moron.

[Peter Pedant]

// All the experts agree it's legal.//
er no they dont - that is why there is a law case
jesus

AB drivel in full flow.....

[Peter Pedant]

// I’m not sure anyone or anything has ‘got one over’//

yeah I am sure that Boris dear Boris has got one over leaver and remainer alike

there he was - blustering in threes - "we must - fight. convince and persuade our frenz in europe....

and he is left with the conclusion that there is one draft
the one that May agreed to ....

Boris won - and we lost