To The V B Q C: Paradoxical Thinking Needed......

[ToraToraTora]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49524124
If you get behind the PM then it's much more likely that the EUSSR will come back to the table, thus reducing the chance of the no deal you so fear. Just a thought.

[dannyk13]

Gromit, David Davies wasn't allowed to negotiate, he was thwarted by May, which is the reason he resigned.Dominic Raab didn't come into until after over two years had passed.

[ichkeria]

His logic seems barmy to me.
Aside from the ultras of the ERG and the Brexit party it seems, no one on either side wanted “No deal”.
But they fact that there are some who actively want to pursue it makes those who would prefer a deal more sceptical that there is one that would ever get voted for.
The UK plainly will suffer more from a No Deal therefore any pressure from the prospect of that is going to be felt more keenly here - by MPs for whom the only prospect of avoiding it might be ... to vote on the existing deal eventually or a tweaked version of it With a new session of Parliament, it can come back to be voted in again if need be. And if enough Labour MPs could vote for it then what the DUP and ERG day would no longer matter.
If I was the PM that’s the scenario I’d be working on as a back up.

[Old_Geezer]

The ERG and Brexit party clearly don't want no deal, but are prepared to accept it's the only thing left. The one group seemingly pushing for it is the EU elite that refuses to deal, but just sticks to demands that no sane nation could accept. The existing so called deal is clearly a non-starter and any MP caught voting for it is likely to have a hard time being trusted in the future. They may as well spend more time with their family now and save themselves the stress.

[ichkeria]

Lol well if the “EU elite” are the only ones pushing for a no deal then it makes Johnson’s remarks even barmier.
I’m absolutely sure he doesn’t think that.
Did you mean what you said?

[dannyk13]

Ich, 'no deal' is a negotiating ploy.Boris is doing all he can to get a deal.

[jim360]

There is no-one either on AB or in Parliament who is a VBQC. It's not even remotely correct. There are only people who disagree on Brexit.

We shouldn't tolerate this sort of language, appealing to some sort of WWII mentality.