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retrocop | 19:08 Thu 10th Oct 2019 | News
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I have never spat my dummies out with regard to the current POTUS or vented my spleen with vicious spite and unfounded accusations. I have always believed he has done well for his country. He is supposed to have their interests at heart and amen to that.
I rather think he is losing it a bit recently with his current suggestions. Kurds 2nd World War eh!
Perhaps he is thinking how we did SFA for the Poles and Czecks after WW2 and allowed the Russians to torture and incarcerate their fellow fighters after beating off the Germans and liberating Russia. I am talking the 2nd Front here. Boy did we stab them in the back.?






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I read, or perhaps heard today I can’t remember which, that he is in a bit of a cleft stick situation.

Support our friends - Kurds
or
support our verified friends - Turks

He had to chose.

I use verified loosely as I can’t remember the exact term they used.

No leader has a free ride their whole political career. There will be at least one time they have to make. A difficult choice. Perhaps this is his.
He is in a very difficult position. (I never spat my dummy out either, he is the POTUS). Even so, my reaction is to censor the Turks - the ramifications of this action will echo for hundreds of years, I fear.
'Stabbing in the back' is (apart from being dishonourable) a guarantee of bad feeling for a long, long time. I'm reading Antony Beevor (The Second World War- very heavy book in all senses) at the moment and there was a lot of betrayal and double-dealing and this just made matters worse. I'm now very worried about escalation and hope it can be avoided.
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cassa
Indeed. It is a dilemma but I still feel POTUS should consider the Kurds position. I thought the ultimate aim was to destroy Daesh and the Kurds certainly played their part in doing that. It is no coincidence that they are guarding the Daesh prisoners that they captured.
I don’t think there was a choice there in that sense at all. If he had kept US forces on the Turkish border it would by default have helped protect Turkey from any Kurdish threat real or imagined. Until such times as a scenario could have been worked out to re accommodate Turkey’s Syrian refugees etc
Unfortunately the impression is very much that America First means “we care little about the rest of the world” and understand less”. Plus the suspicion he’s not above the odd dirty deal with an autocrat.
Trump was never a politician. He was a business man.
His amateurism at leading is now very apparent.

His techniques of having a little word in someones ear to get favours done may work with the mafiosa in Manhattan, but look highly suspect in Congress.
Like Boris, he is lazy and has never bothered to learn the rules. So he has blundered into the Impeachment situation and is very confused because he has no concept of having done anything wrong.
He is not very bright, not very aware.
The GOP will dumb him and leave him very soon.
Although Trump is a willing "foil" what with his penchant for tweeting and sounding off, I have a gut feeling that this decision is not on his head alone. Notice the non criticism from most of mainland Europe and the EUSSR in particular. Then consider these quotes.

"If they [the European Union] do not give us the necessary support in this struggle, then we will not be able to stop the 3.5 million refugees from Syria and another two million people who will reach our borders from Idlib." — Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan.

"If we open the floodgates, no European government will be able to survive for more than six months. We advise them not to try our patience." — Turkish Interior Minister Süleyman Soylu.

On September 5, Erdoğan said that Turkey plans to repatriate one million Syrian migrants to a "safe zone" in northern Syria and threatened to reopen the route for migrants into Europe if he does not receive adequate international support for the plan: "This either happens or otherwise we will have to open the gates."

More than six million migrants are believed to be waiting in countries around the Mediterranean to cross into Europe, according to a classified German government report leaked to the newspaper Bild... More than three million others are waiting in Turkey.

9 million illegal immigrants! Trump is taking the hit for our stupidity. Oh how the noodle knitters and hand wringers have made capital out of American "involvement" in that hell hole. They are hardly cheering from the rooftops now though. Careful what you wish for.
Time to strengthen our borders?
And not forgetting he only moved about 100 to 150 troops. They only have about 1,200 over there anyway.

But it is a difficult choice to make.
I think the point is more that the US troops were by default a disincentive to aggression to each side.
Although it’s true that the withdrawal appears to be low key so far, Turkey plainly feels it can now act with impunity.
And you have to wonder why they think that.
Oh Gromit. You are such a laugh.

If highest employment, highest black employment, better economy, lower taxes, better trade deals, getting partner nations to pay their fare share of costs, withdrawing from endless, pointless wars and attempting to expose corruption is amateurish then go Trump. I’d rather have a Trump than a career and crooked politician like Clinton or Biden.

He hasn’t blundered into the impeachment. The Dems have manufactured it because they still don’t accept the result of the 2016 election (or that sounds familiar somehow!!!). Clinton has even said she would consider running in 2020 and beat Trump again.... get it, again. She doesn’t accept he won. She doesn’t accept she was a worse candidate. That’s how demented they are. And when the demented are in charge of the asylum you have to question everything they do.
retrocop - // I have never spat my dummies out with regard to the current POTUS or vented my spleen with vicious spite and unfounded accusations. //

Nor me!

Glad we can agree on something!!
Lol Hillary Clinton has never said she would stand for president again. Not sure where you got that from.
And even if she did it's a different election. It's not like you can only run in one election and if you lose that's it. Grover Cleveland won, lost then won again one time.

Not that I'd *want* Clinton to run again but it's a completely strange post.
Hillary won the popular vote.
cassa333

The present POTUS is the weakest, loneliest President in history. Largely by his own inexperience. He has alienated his own side and has no friends other than his appointees. Most of his party, and party senators don’t like him and he rules by fear ( of retribution if they don’t tow the line).
Inviting a foreign Government to help him get elected is not on. It is clearly an impeachable offence. It is either ignorance or arrogance that makes Trump behave in such a cavalier way regarding the law.
Trump has run out of new tricks. He campaigned against Hilary by calling her ‘crooked’ and vowing to send her to prison. But she has never been prosecuted or indeed never been prosecuted for any real offence. And now, election 2, Trump is doing the exact same tactics, accusing the opposition of being ‘crooked’ and unlawful.
It remains to be seen if this trick wins again, or his own unlawful behaviour catches up with Trump.
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//Glad we can agree on something!! //

No. Not at all. You are delusional. Never mind. You may get it right someday.
For my penny worth l agree with cassa333.
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Certainly agree with you and cassa in that respect. As I also stated earlier I am not too enamoured with his treatment or abandonment of the Kurds. He may of opened a big can of worms between Europe and the USA as a result of his betrayal .
ichkeria //Lol Hillary Clinton has never said she would stand for president again. Not sure where you got that from//.

The last laugh is on you, once again. Is there any subject on earth that you won't advertise your total ignorance of?
//Time to strengthen our borders? //

why? we'd only be hampering the arrival of 9 million doctors, surgeons, engineers, etc who stand ready to boost our economy.....

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