Would You Back A Second Referendum

[Bobbisox1]

I would not and if one was implemented I won’t vote again, there’s calls for another one, what happened to democracy ?

[ToraToraTora]

anne: "In theory we should not revote but we did not know what we were voting for in the first one, that’s the argument for a second vote . " - that's in the heads of the remaoners, we all knew and we are getting tired of this cobras. We knew right!

[fiction-factory]

>Remain in the EU
Leave the EU with the 'Boris' Deal
Leave without a deal.

That wouldn't work though-it would pretty much split the leave vote ( imagine a vote that goes 40, 30, 30) so we would Remain by default

[fiction-factory]

We can't re-run elections and referendums on the basis that people like gulliver didn't understand the question

[cashier]

If there was another referendum I would vote for the same reasons APG gave in her first answer.

[ToraToraTora]

FF with 3 choices would you just say the one with the most wins or would it have to be a majority?

[AuntPollyGrey]

Fiction, yes I can see your point. Maybe Boris's deal is so awful many would vote to leave without a deal, but that may not be enough for a majority.

[fiction-factory]

The 3 choices wasn't my suggestion- I copied and pasted it from APG's post.
If there were to be three choices then they'd have to say we only Remain if Remain got more than 50%. If Remain gets less than 50% we'd go for the Leave option with the highest vote.
But of course if the winning Leave option gets only say 30% of the votes I'm sure Gina Miller or someone would challenge it

[Jackdaw33]

FF is correct, in a referendum there can only be two options.

[jobjockey]

Surely a second referendum would
give the green light to Nicola Sturgeon,
for a second once in a lifetime Scottish
independence vote.

[EDDIE51]

NO !! The very idea and reson behind a refferendum is that it is
'ONE OFF' !!

[THECORBYLOON]

If there were three options, voters could rank them in order of preference.

The votes for the least popular option would then be allocated to the voters' second choices.

[AuntPollyGrey]

Referendums are not legally binding, so legally the Government can ignore the results; for example, even if the result of a pre-legislative referendum were a majority of "No" for a proposed law, Parliament could pass it anyway, because parliament is sovereign.

[jim360]

A second referendum is not a re-run. The only way to have a rerun is to literally go back in time three years and hold the vote with the same electorate, having been given the same information that they were then.

I appreciate that "I would say that wouldn't I" is an easy rebuttal to my post, but it's also a matter of fact. The electorate has materially changed, the situation has materially changed, and referring the decision back to the people is, by definition, a further exercise of democracy. People are entitled to frame it in political terms, because of course one heavy motivation for holding a second referendum is to provide a different result -- but that can only happen if the electorate has changed its mind since 2016. There is no logic to the suggestion that, if the people of today have changed their mind, then they have no right to say so in a referendum.

[ToraToraTora]

but surely jim the result of the 2016 vote must be implemented as promised in the leaflet sent to every household.

[THELOONYCORBYN]

I know the vast majority of remainor traitors dont like reality and truth ...but here it is again...
"An in or out referendum".... " if we vote to leave we leave" !!!

[THECORBYLOON]

Referenda can be advisory, meaning the outcome need not be accepted or they can be confirmatory and have to be accepted.

The referendum asking whether voting in general elections should be changed to proportional representation was confirmatory and the UK government had to accept the result.

[Prudie]

It really galls me to say it but it has come to the point that I would back another referendum. Although democracy has been completely ignored and the skulduggery to thwart the process has been shameful - an election is every 4 years if not less so in 3 1/2 people may well have changed their mind, particularly as they now know what it's all about (a little more). However there is nothing I'd like more than to leave if only to stuff those in government and the population who've tried to quash the result at every turn.

[Electrochem]

Whilst I voted remain for a variety of reasons, I think we need to get on and leave the EU. There was a referendum and the result needs to be respected, so no, I don't think there should be another referendum. We need to concentrate on other important issues facing the country. The EU issue has hijacked parliament.

[ToraToraTora]

TCL: "Referenda can be advisory, meaning the outcome need not be accepted or they can be confirmatory and have to be accepted. " - it was made clear that the results would be implemented, are you suggesting the 2016 vote should be deemed advisory retrospectively?

[gulliver1]

The Problem is people like Fiction Factory and The Loony , were easily persuaded to vote leave by Agent Cummings who spent five years living in Russia, with connections to the KGB, then became
Campaign Manager for the vote leave party, and is now Johnsons chief adviser