Would You Back A Second Referendum

[Bobbisox1]

I would not and if one was implemented I won’t vote again, there’s calls for another one, what happened to democracy ?

[spathiphyllum]

I was voting for the status quo

[teacher1]

No, no and no !

[Jackdaw33]

I'm not bothered about a second referendum. I'll still be voting Leave, deal or no deal.

[jim360]

TTT: // "For example, such deals represent the current best the UK can achieve in its negotiations with the EU," - rubbish, the problem is we tipped our hand from the start... //

Even if you contend that the UK could have done better (and even that's debatable), how does it undermine the claim I'm making? Either because of its own incompetence, or because of objective reality that no amount of determination could overcome, the UK has "succeeded" in negotiating a rotten deal. But, whatever the course, that is the deal on the table. We must now either accept it (on the dubious grounds of "getting Brexit done", whatever the cost), or choose a significantly worse and more destructive path ("No Deal"), or revisit the question altogether. Turning back is always an option.

[jim360]

For what little it's worth, though, I would endorse cassa and JtH's plea. If there is to be a second referendum then I hope it doesn't suffer from lack of turnout.

[Jackdaw33]

I fail to see how no deal is destructive. It's a polite way of telling the EU to get stuffed.

[jim360]

I rather think you've answered your own question, then. Telling our nearest neighbours, largest trading partners, and international allies to "get stuffed" is manifestly a destructive approach. Not just to our economy (and theirs), but also to future relations between the UK and EU.

[yogi-bear]

Yes, and I would vote the same way.
And maybe the people who were mislead the first time, would rethink and vote accordingly.

Just as an aside, regarding 'deals', I saw a great one in Tesco superstore earlier...2 for 1 on Ginger Nuts,....... well chuffed :-)

[Jackdaw33]

Time will tell. Your slavish devotion to the EU knows no bounds.

[Old_Geezer]

I'm unsure how many times it needs pointing out spath. Since a decision was made but has yet to be carried out, any further asking of the same question is blatantly obviously just an attempt to thwart democracy, by ignoring the result of first vote, not support it. It's the same filthy trick that the EU likes to pull. Which should speak volumes. Democracy is not the rerunning of votes that a portion of the losers aren't capable of accepting the result of.

[Old_Geezer]

Pity the EU aren't apparently that fussed about our future relationship, given their destructive suggestions, demands, and refusal to budge (much). Luckily we keep trying to reach an agreement, it being in our nature. But yes our diplomats need to be diplomatic, ABers can be more honest since we won't have much influence anyway.

[jourdain2]

No. If this happens -what was the point of voting in the first place.....or, now, …. the 2nd case....or the 3rd. Another referendum negates the power of the vote.

[EDDIE51]

The ENTIRE REASON for a Fererendum is that ot is a ONE OFF !!!
It is ompossible to have a second one !!!
You are confusing it with am Opinion Poll !

[New Judge]

//I was voting for the status quo//

As I keep pointing out, spathi, voting to remain was not a vote for the "status quo" ("the existing state of affairs"). The EU will not remain as it is and its members will not enjoy (or suffer) the same conditions of membership. If you think it would, look at the difference between the EU now and the EC of just, say, fifteen or twenty years ago. The EU does not do the "status quo". Leavers are often accused of not knowing what they were voting for. Well if you believed you were voting for the status quo you acted in equal ignorance.

[THECORBYLOON]

EDDIE, your typing skills might improve if you calmed down a wee bit.

[Jackdaw33]

Well said, NJ. The EU is a totally different beast to what we were dragged into in 1973.

[naomi24]

//largest trading partners//

More sneaky spin. We are net contributors. We buy more from them than they buy from us. If they didn’t they’d have happily waved us goodbye. Not difficult to see why they haven’t. How they love our money. :o)

[Spicerack]

[jim360]

"More sneaky spin. We are net contributors."

No spin at all. Trade goes both ways, and in both directions trade with the EU is huge, and anything that threatens to disrupt that is not a step to be taken lightly. You do need to stop seeing spin where there is none.

[Mamyalynne]

I am not clamouring for a second referendum but if there is one I shall not waste my vote which remains as it was.