Essex Lorry Deaths: Driver Charged With Manslaughter Of 39 People

[NellieMay]

Sorry, I can't copy links. BBC news 45 mins ago.

[Prudie]

I just hope whoever ends up being involved and responsible at no point ever intended for them to die, that is too awful to contemplate.

[TonyV]

Hopkirk we are all getting news and details from varying sources, but think the driver was the last link in the chain, lots of other people involved higher up the chain.

[ichkeria]

Has anyone here ever used a nail bar, for example?
Just interested....

[NellieMay]

Never Ichkeria and never will. Nail technicians - a term which makes me laugh. But they are popular with many. Our small town is losing most of its shops and gaining nail bars.

[ichkeria]

I’ve never seen one (I suppose I wouldn’t lol).
Perhaps they should be boycotted.

[Ken4155]

Prudie; of course no-one intended these people to die. They were smuggled over here to make even more money for the people traffickers.

[ichkeria]

Not just for people traffickers. Any establishment which recruits and underpays its staff is also culpable.

[Islander]

If the poor souls found dead in the trailer had died before the young driver hitched up that deadly trailer, how can he be charged with manslaughter? He would have been transporting corpses.

[Bazile]

Were these people being trafficked or smuggled ?

[ummmm]

Baz...I read somewhere (so many short articles) that one had paid 11k.

[scorpiojo]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/wifes-tears-husband-who-died-20729191.amp

[Prudie]

If no-one intended them to die then something went horribly wrong - whatever the plan it wasn't to leave them alone for whatever time period it actually did take them to die surely?

[dannyk13]

Prudie, in all likelihood they died, or were dying, during transit.

[emmie]

well he has been charged, and others held in custody, lets hope they have the right people and that these poor souls families get some justice.

[andres]

The family of one of the girls reportedly said that she had paid £30,000 in order to look for a better life in the UK. Why on earth if you had that amount of money would you want to leave family and friends and the security of life in Vietnam to seek a 'better' life in the UK?

[emmie]

andres, because we are a soft touch, though it beggars the question 30,000 would go a long way in Vietnam.

[andres]

emmie--you are right.It's about time we started toughening up. Goodness knows how many other illegals have entered our country. Had this tragedy not happened we would be blissfully unaware of what is going on right under our noses. The residents living nearby raised concerns many times but no-one in authority seemed to do anything .

[chamois]

Andres/Emmie, the article I read in the newspaper this morning stated that the parents of one of the victims (who live in the UK),
remortgage their home for £30,000 and paid the money to the traffickers to get their daughter into the UK. It's not correct to think that those on board the lorry necessarily paid the traffickers themselves. It also looks like some of these relatives who paid up have had the money refunded by the traffickers as macabre as that sounds. The article was yesterday's Daily Telegraph.

[ichkeria]

What on earth has “toughening up” got to do with it?
These are people who make money by exploiting people’s hopes. Arguably the harder we make it for people to enter the country the more likely it is they will ne smuggled via deadly dangerous routes.
That’s not an argument for open borders, but a reminder that there is more to it than simply “toughening up”
A lot of people contribute to this sort of crime and it’s not just the traffickers.