It Seems Scotland Has Been Subsidising England......

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/video/scotland-subsidised-the-uk-for-40-years-says-snps-ian-blackford-11870620
Right oh Ian!

[Old_Geezer]

Easy to claim something, we see no evidence supporting it.

[ToraToraTora]

it'll be something to do with or orl!

[emmie]

can't see how.

[mushroom25]

if they're claiming oor oil, they need also to claim oor decommissioning costs, so that'll be £39bn out of their budget......

[Old_Geezer]

Would that be the Shetland's oil ? Ian's not claiming that surely ? They're part of the UK.

[jourdain2]

I'm just shaking my head in disbelief. We have virtually single-track roads here (because of the edges and the potholes everyone drives down the middle) and in our regular trips to Scotland we marvel at their lovely roads and all sorts of other better things that they have.

[BigBainby]

60- 65 Billion raised in Scotland in taxes each year ( look it up elsewhere for proof ) and gets 30-35 Billion back in Block Grant.

England spends the rest on Scotland's behalf whereever they choose HS2 and such ..... over spends by 5 billion or so a year and then assigns that debt to Scotland... so i'm sure scotland could do rather well with up to an extra 30 billion a year !

all of this DOES NOT include oil revenues !

SO yeah this is a FACT

[BigBainby]

60- 65 Billion raised in Scotland in taxes each year ( look it up elsewhere for proof ) and gets 30-35 Billion back in Block Grant.

England spends the rest on Scotland's behalf whereever they choose HS2 and such ..... over spends by 5 billion or so a year and then assigns that debt to Scotland... so i'm sure scotland could do rather well with up to an extra 30 billion a year !

all of this DOES NOT include oil revenues !

SO yeah this is a FACT

[sunny-dave]

Cobblers ... just cobblers.

This is a proper INDEPENDENT assessment of the fiscal issues surrounding Scotland and the UK :

Scotland has been heavily subsidised by the rest of the UK for the last 20 years at least - £15 billion in 2015/2016 :

https://fullfact.org/economy/tax-and-spending-scotland/

[Old_Geezer]

We all contribute to UK spending. No one should be claiming a free exception.

[BigBainby]

INDEPENDENT assessment ???

Full Fact was started by 2 Tory Donors and members and both former presidents of the Junior Tory members club.... also based in London.... so NO NOT INDEPENDENT

Also why are people so scared to allow Scotland to have the vote if Scotland is SUCH a burden on the UK ???

This is a government that wont subsidise a third child or a spare bedroom but will do it for an entire Nation ???

Go Read the McCrone Report - plus the entire west coast of scotland is also full of Oil its been tested and discovered ( look that up too ) but not mined as the Submarines need to navigate those waters, but they will be moving to England soon enough .....

[naomi24]

^Is that you, bainbrig?

[Old_Geezer]

You may not have noticed. Scotland had the vote and opted to reject the independence nonsense. Or is this another example of undemocrats not being capable of accepting the majority decision ?

[douglas9401]

' ...we marvel at their lovely roads...'

There are apparently two Scotlands, the one you visit and the one I live in. :-)

[sunny-dave]

As usual - if you don't like the message then just shoot the messenger. Everything in the 'fullfact' report is from properly verified (usually Government) sources.

I love Scotland, and I like (by and large) the Scots. I have no wish to change the current fiscal balance - it's manageable and worthwhile whilst Scotland is in the UK.

I also recognise that Scotland is fully entitled to decide to leave the UK - although I'd rather it didn't - but if it does go, then all bets are off on subsidy and I'm afraid my (not very funny) jibe of "Greece without the Sunshine" will be all too true.

[sunny-dave]

This is a useful source document - produced by Nicola Sturgeon'sown Government.

I refer you to page six for the 'net fiscal balance' - showing the scale of the annual deficits :

https://www2.gov.scot/Resource/0050/00504649.pdf#page=6

[ToraToraTora]

looks like brain freeze is back!