Should We Be More Concerned Over Islamic Terrorism?

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/sep/19/fastest-growing-uk-terrorist-threat-is-from-far-right-say-police

[dannyk13]

OG, I think that the police and our secret service know best where the main threat comes from.

[mushroom25]

it's not saying that the right wing is a threat demanding most concern - it's saying that the right wing threat is the fastest growing.

[anotheoldgit]

You really think so, or are they scared of being called racist or islamophobic just like they were over the child grooming gangs?

[dannyk13]

AOG //You really think so, or are they scared of being called racist //
No.

[anotheoldgit]

mushroom 25

Is it any wonder when the establishment refuse to address the real problems that this country faces?
Take Tommy Robinson, Nigel Garage and co.

[anotheoldgit]

I cannot understand the tolerance we show towards the Islamics in this country, when we are prepared to go to war with those in the Middle East.
Are they a different breed of Islamics that come to our shores?

[Peter Pedant]

// OG, I think that the police and our secret service know best where the main threat comes from.//

"duh only people who know what is going on in MI5 is the KGB in Moscow !" ( Rev Ian Paisley, modified)

Unlike dear sweet AOG who sits there and blaarts-
I wrote to Sir Mark Rowley ( knighted for services against terrorism) and told him his Protect - - anti terrorism scheme was crap (*) and he replied(**)
"no it is not ( because I say so)
oops PP must go - off to the palace for my knighthood! love Mark, soon to be sir!"

(*) or completely crap and useless - I dont recollect which

(**) I was put up to it by arabic speaking colleagues because I wrote better English and who commented - "alot of this is wrong you know"

[Togo]

How many suicide bombings, vehicle attacks, bombings of packed venues, and random knife attacks have been carried out by these highly dangerous "right wing groups"? How many are you expecting in say......the next 12 months?

[THECORBYLOON]

I put more weight on the opinions of the experts who deal with the problems day-to-day rather than the folk on here getting their information from the media.

[Peter Pedant]

// Are they a different breed of Islamics that come to our shores?//

yes sweet cuz - bit of a Freudian slip there as we have discussed this on AB before - but hey! once again!

we have a lot of Ahmeddiyas - here because they are looked on as heretics ( kufr) by their own sort

Remember the Muslim in Glasgow who was butchered by the Muslim who had driven up from Brum to do it?
The Dead man was an Ahmediya who had put up a notice "to my dear Christian brethren...."(*)

The father of the Pakistani atomic bomb said to the prime minister ( of Pakistan that is!) - having delivered the bomb of course
Farder: you have just hanged one of my chief technicians
Zulfikar Ali Bhutto( for it was he) yes he was an Ahmediya
(F) - I am an Ahmediya
Z. yes you are next

and F fled the country the next day (and lived)
( makes a good story)
and Bhutto was later hanged for treason ( and diiiiiiiied!)

and so what does that show?
Pakistan is a pretty rough place and no wonder they all want to come and live here

(*)Quran mentions Jews and Christians as Ahl al kitaab
children of the book
and by implication therefore NOT unbelievers or Kufr

[naomi24]

No. Aog, they are not a different breed from most who come to our shores - and yes we should be more concerned over Islamic terrorism.

[retrocop]

//and so what does that show?
Pakistan is a pretty rough place and no wonder they all want to come and live here //

And die here it would seem. Our latest peace loving Islamist wanted to start a training camp in Daddy's property back in his home country.
Looked like this one went rather rogue doesn't it?


https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/30/named-pictured-london-bridge-attacker-convicted-terrorist-11244497/?ico=pushly-notifcation-small&utm_source=pushly
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[dannyk13]

//Khan had been a guest at a seminar in Fishmongers’ Hall, run by Cambridge University’s Criminology Department, to help offenders reintegrate into society following their release from jail.


Read more: https://metro.co.uk/2019/11/30/named-pictured-london-bridge-attacker-convicted-terrorist-11244497/?ico=pushly-notifcation-small&utm_source=pushly?ito=cbshare

[dannyk13]

How misguided can you get.

[retrocop]

When you read his past form in the link and his associates aims and their targets it is a wonder that he (Khan) was allowed to see the light of day ever again.

[dannyk13]

Everyone convicted pf a terrorist crime should receive a full term life sentence.

[youngmafbog]

Couldnt agree more Danny.

Should we be more concerned over Islamic terrorism? I would saay yes, at least in this country. Until the authorities show me that a 'far right' and I guess that incudes me and a few other ABers according to some on here, person that is randomly going to blow up members of the public or go on a knife rampage or use a vehicle to slaughter people then I will consider Islamic terrorism the greatest threat to me.

Unfortuatley the Authorites, as pointed out by AOG, have a track record of pussy footing around these people.

[Peter Pedant]

// on the opinions of the experts who deal with the problems day-to-day //

er fish n chips at fishmongers hall corbo?
I'll pay if I make to the head of the queue hur hur hur

I spent the Day thinking it was Billingsgate Mkt and um not fishmongers hall - ho hum (pun intended)

[anotheoldgit]

Something a bit fishy Peter, something a bit fishy.

[THECORBYLOON]

From The Guardian report,
"A quarter of all terrorism arrests in the past year were linked to far-right violence.

The far-right caseload of counter-terrorism police jumped from 6% to 10% in the last two years.

Referrals to Prevent, the anti-radicalisation programme, had almost doubled between 2016 and 2018 for the far right, from 10% to 18%, and were expected to rise further.

A third of all terror plots to kill in Britain since 2017 – seven out of 22 – were by those driven by extreme-right causes."