Labour Leadership Contest

[Deskdiary]

Looks like Momentum are flexing their muscles.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jan/15/momentum-back-rebecca-long-bailey-poll-labour-leadership

If this Corbyn clone were to win, is it safe to assume Labour may as well give-up any pretence that they've got any hope at all of winning the next GE?

This is a woman who said Corbyn's leadership was "10 out of 10", who said of Labour's absurd manifesto pledges “[I didn't] just agree with the policies, I’ve spent the last four years writing them”, and has already been caught out telling lies vis her growing-up watching her father worry about redundancy from Salford Docks - even though she was only 2 when the docks closed.

[cassa333]

Five years is a long looooong long time in politics.

Socialists are convinced that we are all closet socialists and TBH over time they will convince more and more they are right.

Catch the young, disenfranchised and poor and socialism seems very appealing.

But there are two truths to socialism that seem to be very true.

1. You eventually run out of other people’s money.
2. Only people that have not lived through a socialist society believe in socialism.

[naomi24]

Given Corbyn's disastrous performance why do they think more of the same will work?

[Khandro]

Charles Moore says that many Tories are 'joining' the Labour party to vote for Long Baily

[davebro]

Ms L-B has been so widely named as the "Corbyn continuity candidate" that the ordinary punter (those of us whose votes matter!) will regard Labour under her leadership as NO CHANGE & therefore just as unelectable as it was under Corbyn.

The party is so deeply divided I don't think there is a leadership candidate that can properly unite it & it won't survive in its present form.

[dannyk13]

khandro//Tories are 'joining' the Labour party to vote for Long Baily/
Link?

[davebro]

I paid £3 to sign up and vote for Corbyn (he would have got in anyway as it turns out). £25 is a bit rich seeing that none of the candidates can turn Labour around before the next GE.

[Jackdaw33]

I know nothing about the woman except she is MP for across the river from me, but by the sounds of it she makes La Abbott an attractive choice.

[naomi24]

You have to question the mentality of this bunch.

[ichkeria]

It’s hardly a surprise that Momentum would back Long-Bailey.
This is not a membership wide poll but a poll of LabourList subscribers.

[Jackdaw33]

It's of no consequence anyway. Boris has got the job for as long as he wants it.

[Bobbisox1]

JD , I thought she was MP for Salford, you say ‘ across the river from me” ( you)
Anyway, I don’t like this Corbyn clone , God help the Labour Party under her

[ludwig]

// If this Corbyn clone were to win, is it safe to assume Labour may as well give-up any pretence that they've got any hope at all of winning the next GE? //

Yes.

[ToraToraTora]

the best one for them is SKS, the best one for us is Rebecca Wrong-Daily so I'll be rooting for her, not enough to register for £25 though!

[ToraToraTora]

casse: "But there are two truths to socialism that seem to be very true.

1. You eventually run out of other people’s money.
2. Only people that have not lived through a socialist society believe in socialism. " - I would add:
3) in order to have the money spent in 1) someone has to create it, socialism is the kryptonite of wealth generation.

[Jackdaw33]

I think she's the MP for South Shields, but I could be wrong.

[ludwig]

// Given Corbyn's disastrous performance why do they think more of the same will work? //

Momentum are mainly concerned with maintaining ownership of the Labour party. Although they would not be averse to winning an election, it would be seen purely as a bonus, and not actually the end of the world if it never happened again.

I'm not making this up. I've had this view expressed to me by loony lefties that I actually know. They hate the right wing of their own party more than they hate the Tories.

Corbyn's language gave it away when he talked about Labour being the 'resistance' and 'winning the argument'.

[Ken4155]

Salford and Eccles, Jackdaw, since 2015

[naomi24]

^Perhaps he can join the cast of 'Allo 'Allo when he's out of work. He'd fit in well.

[cassa333]

Socialism is the only ideology that must have billionaires.

Without them no on can fund your socialist aims.

However they hate billionaires so don’t encourage them to stay.

Bit of an oxymoron.

[Jackdaw33]

I was wrong then. Don't know where I got that idea from.