Immigration

[emmie]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51550421

will it work in effect..

[pixie374]

That's why I would like teenagers to get a chance. Teach them some independence and responsibility before they start believing everything is automatically paid for by somebody else.

[Ken4155]

If only, pixie, if only.

[AuntPollyGrey]

Pixie, I thought you ran your own business? as an Employer you must welcome zero hours contracts. Its all very well stating that one can choose NOT to work, the problem is when you have no choice in the matter and WANT to work but your employer gives you 30 hours one week and 8 hours the following two weeks. How to people live like that? Not knowing how much money they are gong to have at the end of each month?

[teacake44]

Poor job prospects, or inconsistent employment along with low pay, increases the potential for an individual to turn to crime regardless of their education, especially when they find themselves in a desperate situation.

[tamborine]

Cut welfare payments so that any work pays.

[Old_Geezer]

It's still what agencies are for. Zero hours contracts are an invite for abuse.

[retrocop]

Germany has a lower employment rate for their 18-24 year olds because they operate apprenticeships within their work force which are highly successful.Only Spain and Italy have a higher unemployment rate for their youths than the UK.
I realise that nursing has become more advanced whereby specialised nurses fulfill the role of doctors in many cases but I also believe that a uni degree is totally unnecessary for many. A level standard may be but not to the degree where a nurse is paying back student grants out of a chunk of their pay. Like wise. Police Constable do not require a couple of years wasted with their new recruitment programme.

[Ken4155]

Happen a good thing this sort of legislation wasn't brought in prior to Priti Patel's parents coming over here. They probably would not have been allowed in.

[pixie374]

Apg, we rarely take on employees, but a zero hours contract would be less helpful to me as an employer. I couldn't be ringing clients saying that nobody is available to work today. It's notoriously short-staffed, so it would be better to get the commitment. Different situations in different jobs...

[woofgang]

we used them at work (zero hours contracts) so we could keep staff who didn't want to work school holidays on the books without incurring bank charges or meaning that they had to be treated as new employees (induction course and medical) every time they came back to us. Like many other things they are open to abuse but have their legitimate uses.

[pixie374]

That was exactly what I did, woof. I had a couple of years first of handing in my notice every July and reapplying in September. I could absorb it for the other holidays, but six weeks of losing money wasn't helpful.

[Cloverjo]

Sorry, I haven’t read the whole thread. I think this is a terrible idea.
My Lithuanian daughter-in-law is a very intelligent woman and has a good job, but she might have struggled to stay here had these rules been in place when she finished university here.

Regarding care assistants, would you want to be looked after by someone who was only doing the job because they had to as there were no Eastern Europeans here to do the job.

[pixie374]

No... but low pay, in my experience, is the main reason for the high turnover. People either like the job or they don't, but look for better paid ones.

[fender62]

eu migrants on tax credits how's that paying into the system, considering the use of public services nhs schools etc etc.
iv seen roma migrants selling the big issue in order to get tax credits
and not have to work a full time job that includes child benefit
free housing and benefits therein, what to stop somone setting up
a bogus company and getting in low skilled migrants anyway.

[Cloverjo]

No one gets free housing, fender.

[Cloverjo]

Under BorisJohnson’s new rules anyone earning less than £25.6k is an unskilled worker.

NHS starting salaries:

Nurse £24.2k
Paramedic 24.2k
Midwife £24.2k
Radiographer £24.2k
Care assistant £17.6k
Physiotherapist £24.2k
Occupational therapist £24.2k

Well done, leavers.

[fiction-factory]

But if they were experienced health workers they could be offered something higher up the scale based on experience, Cloverjo. If the Health Service wants them they'll pay accordingly to attract them

[douglas9401]

Another policy doodled on the back of a fois gras packet.

Putting the sham in shambolic.

[hereIam]

'Well done, leavers'. Eh ??????

[diddlydo]

Cloverjo and Douglas - well said!