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Coronavirus In The Us
On its current trajectory, the US will record more confirmed cases than China by Friday, and should pass around 1000 total deaths from Covid-19 at around the same time. Some of this is down to aggressive testing and processing, so that older cases are finally showing up, but the more people who had it the further the disease can spread, and the worse this problem will be. Therefore there is little doubt that in or around April, the US, or at least many of its states, will be in a far worse position than the UK, and it is likely to stay that way for a while yet.
The appropriate response to this would be to implement measures similar to those in Europe and the UK. That's the only way to get on top of the health crisis.
And yet, all the signs are that Trump is likely to want to open the country up at the end of its current "15 days to stop the spread" programme, to put the economy ahead of the health risk. Despite the words of Pence et al, it's not clear that this is working, because, as we've seen in the UK, not everybody will cooperate with voluntary measures to isolate.
What is he playing at, then?! This is putting his citizens' lives at risk. Can he be serious, or is this merely hopeful optimism that will be tempered ultimately by events?
This isn't an opinion that comes from just the guy who obviously would say that. The article below, which says more or less the same thing, is written by a guy who counts among Trump's friends, who has defended him at many points through his presidency, and who even got a Christmas card from Trump.
Is this a risk worth taking, to put the economy ahead of lives? If so, then why not here?
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The appropriate response to this would be to implement measures similar to those in Europe and the UK. That's the only way to get on top of the health crisis.
And yet, all the signs are that Trump is likely to want to open the country up at the end of its current "15 days to stop the spread" programme, to put the economy ahead of the health risk. Despite the words of Pence et al, it's not clear that this is working, because, as we've seen in the UK, not everybody will cooperate with voluntary measures to isolate.
What is he playing at, then?! This is putting his citizens' lives at risk. Can he be serious, or is this merely hopeful optimism that will be tempered ultimately by events?
This isn't an opinion that comes from just the guy who obviously would say that. The article below, which says more or less the same thing, is written by a guy who counts among Trump's friends, who has defended him at many points through his presidency, and who even got a Christmas card from Trump.
Is this a risk worth taking, to put the economy ahead of lives? If so, then why not here?
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The stats for actual cases may well be wildly inaccurate. At the moment all we have to go on is positive testing the benefits of which are limited as far as I can see.
If it’s true as some British scientists have suggested that half of Britain may have caught the virus already then it’s really testing for immunity that counts.
On that US cruise ship alone half of those tested showed no symptoms.
If it’s true as some British scientists have suggested that half of Britain may have caught the virus already then it’s really testing for immunity that counts.
On that US cruise ship alone half of those tested showed no symptoms.
the graphic on this page, updated last night, suggests the US rate is rising as fast as Spain's and Italy's, and more steeply than China and Iran at the same stage
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The new cases figure will be continually updated today for the US, as it comes in dribs and drabs. Yesterday Spain recorded 6922 new cases to the US's 11075. On that metric the US is doing worse, although it has to be said that part of the reason the US new cases are so high is because they're now testing a lot more than earlier in the month.
Spain's figures tend to be updated in a single dump earlier on the day (and may be updated again later, I'm not sure). It is true that a metric on which Spain is worse, apart from total deaths currently, is the case/million population. Currently, ten times as many Spaniards proportionally are known to have Covid-19 as compared to Americans. But the fact remains that cases in the US are growing rapidly, and are set to overtake Chinese confirmed cases by Friday.
The new cases figure will be continually updated today for the US, as it comes in dribs and drabs. Yesterday Spain recorded 6922 new cases to the US's 11075. On that metric the US is doing worse, although it has to be said that part of the reason the US new cases are so high is because they're now testing a lot more than earlier in the month.
Spain's figures tend to be updated in a single dump earlier on the day (and may be updated again later, I'm not sure). It is true that a metric on which Spain is worse, apart from total deaths currently, is the case/million population. Currently, ten times as many Spaniards proportionally are known to have Covid-19 as compared to Americans. But the fact remains that cases in the US are growing rapidly, and are set to overtake Chinese confirmed cases by Friday.
As a federalist state the states can do pretty much as they please and have done for some time in lots of areas.
Now Trump is supposed to ride in and save them only for them to turn on him wHen he does.
But that’s his job so he will help them.
It doesn’t matter much what he does because the people of the US are determinedly stubborn and there is a large proportion (not giant chunks of course but it is big) that doesn’t trust the government, doesn’t take being told what to do, and simply by way of the constitution should not de dictated to.
By far the larger proportion of people will do as they are told but overall the US have a very different outlook on employees and healthcare. And that will be a deciding factor for a lot of people. Can they afford not to go to work?
Trump has a very different country to the UK in both area size, government and culture. He couldn’t in the first instance do the same but has to take much more into consideration. And of course as has been said by him and others, if the cure is worse than the illness how can you mitigate both?
Now Trump is supposed to ride in and save them only for them to turn on him wHen he does.
But that’s his job so he will help them.
It doesn’t matter much what he does because the people of the US are determinedly stubborn and there is a large proportion (not giant chunks of course but it is big) that doesn’t trust the government, doesn’t take being told what to do, and simply by way of the constitution should not de dictated to.
By far the larger proportion of people will do as they are told but overall the US have a very different outlook on employees and healthcare. And that will be a deciding factor for a lot of people. Can they afford not to go to work?
Trump has a very different country to the UK in both area size, government and culture. He couldn’t in the first instance do the same but has to take much more into consideration. And of course as has been said by him and others, if the cure is worse than the illness how can you mitigate both?
At least he has dignity and good taste:
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Now that The US has overtaken China with the most Coronavirus cases, can we now start calling it ‘American Flu’ ?
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