Why Are Bame People Nore Susceptible To Covid-19?

[mushroom25]

Report here.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/889195/disparities_review.pdf

Whilst the report does examine Deprivation, the words "vile Tory", "Racist" and "Austerity" don't appear anywhere in it.

What's the chances of this document being universally accepted?

[dannyk13]

// the words "vile Tory", "Racist" and "Austerity" don't appear anywhere in it.//
Why should they?

[fiction-factory]

I took it a dig at those who would want those terms in the report

[Mamyalynne]

More investigation into why some are more susceptible will come.

[bookbinder]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/05/black-people-uk-times-die-covid-19-ons-200507092551289.html

[Gromit]

Don’t know but I would suspect they are doing the low paid jobs that can’t be done from home.
Bus drivers, care home jobs, hospital work, shop work, where they are in physical contact with many hundreds if not thousands of people each day. Especially early on, no PPE provided by the employers.

[pixie374]

It seems they are more likely to die from covid, than more likely to catch it. Both bame and women make up the majority of key workers. But bame are twice as likely to die and males are twice as likely to die. Which seems to is something biological, rather than some kind of racism. Lack of vitamin D seems the most likely so far.

[pastafreak]

I was going to say the same as pixie. Vitamin D absorption/production is far lower in those who are dark skinned.

[DTCwordfan]

Could it actually be the differences in their genetic make-up? After all, it is well know that BAME suffer from diseases such as sickle-cell anaemia far more frequently than in the Caucasian ethnicity.... IMO, there's nothing racial about it....

[pixie374]

It really seems so, dtc... the same as it is with males.

[DTCwordfan]

as a slight digression, but related, there was a thing on R4 this morning about research work that has identified 2/3rds of Caucasian women have a remnant Neaderthal gene in their make-up, the benefit of this being to increase the chances of successful carrying and birthing of their children....the point being to here, it's just one (interesting) example of the differences that our genes do carry....

[pixie374]

I haven't seen that, dt, although it is interesting. The biggest difference seems to be that because women have two Xs, there is a spare if one goes wrong, while men don't. Basically. So right from conception they have more chance of surviving the same things than a male does. If you look at conjoined twins... about 70/75% that survive are female... but, this is all probably a bit off-topic.

[woofgang]

apparently its Asian rather than African that have the highest risk

[pixie374]

Have you got a link to this, woof? This suggests Asians are 1.8 times more likely to die, and black people twice as likely.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/07/black-people-four-times-more-likely-to-die-from-covid-19-ons-finds

[woofgang]

taken from the report
"An analysis of survival among confirmed COVID-19 cases and using more detailed ethnic groups, shows that after accounting for the effect of sex, age, deprivation and region, people of Bangladeshi ethnicity had around twice the risk of death than people of White British ethnicity. People of Chinese, Indian, Pakistani, Other Asian, Caribbean and Other Black ethnicity had between 10 and 50% higher risk of death when compared to White British."

[pixie374]

Thanks, so just the opposite of the other link.

[Old_Geezer]

Genes eh ? Tsk. Then they've probably only themselves to bame.

[pixie374]

Tbh, ^^ I wouldn't have included Chinese, Bangladeshi, Pakistani and "all others" in with black people, in order to compare.

[woofgang]

seems they are more likely to catch it as well
"A total of 10,841 COVID-19 cases were identified in nurses, midwives and nursing associates registered with the Nursing and Midwifery Council. Among those who are registered, this represents 4% of Asian ethnic groups, 3.1% of Other ethnic groups, 1.7% of White ethnic groups and 1.5% of both Black and Mixed ethnic groups. This analysis did not look at the possible reasons behind these differences, which may be driven by factors like geography or nature of individuals’ roles."

[Peter Pedant]

// // the words "vile Tory", "Racist" and "Austerity" don't appear anywhere in it.//
Why should they?//

turn the irony klaxon off mush, it clearly isnt working

[Peter Pedant]

oh this is the one that says more Pakistanis died than Bangla
- they dont have any idea why do they?