Are They Trying To Erase History?

[saintpeter48]

Statues being taken down, 'Gone with the Wind' removed from programming, BBC not showing anymore Little Britain sketches, and last night I was presenting an online quiz on Facebook for some family members, one of my picture quizzes was Heinrich Himmler, directly I posted the picture Facebook informed me that I would be barred from their site for 24 hours due to the offensive photo!
Is history being wiped, surely history must be taught to avoid these things happening again.

[ToraToraTora]

only the bits they don't like/understand or misunderstand or misinterpret.

[Gromit]

Little Britain Was mot a history programme and its removal from iPlayer and Netflix had nothing to do with erasing or rewriting history.

[Old_Geezer]

Utter insanity. Little Britain indicates that being black skinned is sacred, no non-black skinned person is allowed to play a black-skinned part. And I take it you are aware of the Leigh Francis/Keith Lemon apology nonsense. How is a photograph of a historical person, offensive ? That's seriously worrying.

[woofgang]

hisory is not being wiped. Gone With The Wind is not history. Little Britain is not history. Facebook, although clever, has no idea why you posted the picture, just that you posted it. If anything, history is being augmented.

[Old_Geezer]

Both the book and the programme were created in the past, and now being attacked. As such they are from history.

[jackthehat]

No-one is going to knock on your door and demand that you hand over your copies of the book, or film, of GWTW.
You can still enjoy your DVD collection of Little Britain.
And FB doesn't know 'why' you posted a photograph of HH, just that you did and they would rather he didn't appear of their platform....

That's not history being re-written that's just an acknowledgement that times change and rather more consideration needs to be taken of, and shown to, viewers out there in TV-land.

[Gherkins]

History isn’t fact. It’s wrote by the victors. Can we all settle down now?

[Gherkins]

The Nazi’s burned 00’s of books. Removing a statue doesn’t remove the history of the person.

[Gromit]

This is hilarious and I haven’t stopped laughing for 18 years...

https://i.inews.co.uk/content/uploads/2020/06/PRI_154087258-1536x1008.jpg

[ichkeria]

Gone With The Wind - which has always been controversial - has not been "removed from programming". HBO Max have temporarily removed it from their screening.
I managed to post old Heinrich on FB without being banned :-)

[Peter Pedant]

hmm - only nice things happen in history
erasing memories has a long history
Akhnaten - pharaoh ( used to Amenophis IV but rebranded himself and moved to Amarna) gave rise to Tutankhaten who rebranded HIMSELF to Tutankhamum ( king Tut that is !)
who in turn was wiped out by Ay

as any sckool-boy kno - - - - ( Molesworth)

and here is a poet damned
ater disgraced as politician, the elegiac poet Gaius Cornelius Gallus (ca. ... life.13 A further decree of damnatio memoriae may have followed, but this is now.

we dug 10 lines of his in Qasr Ibrim in 1978
Elegiacs by Gallus
R. D. Anderson, P. J. Parsons and R. G. M. Nisbet
The JRS 69 (1979), pp. 125-155

and the only other things left are references
quis neget carmen Gallo ( virgil eclogue 10)

and think about it - there was nit much left of Piers Gaveston ( 1322) or Richard III ( 1485)
after their deaths

The problem is that there is left the elephant in the room
which is erase Eichmann and HImmler then who herds the eastern popiulation - 12m of them into the gas chambers?

[Peter Pedant]

COmes in starts
Nee-jair was blooped out of Reach for the Sky
the darg is named that by the way
and then it was back
has it gone ( poor dog!) now

Fagin - has had his jewish origins suppressed for years

[youngmafbog]

The left have always tried to rewrite history. The BBC are right behind this and wil do anything in their power to forward the Metropolitan liberal view.

Not sure a couple of films and Twitface entries count as rewriting history though. Twitface usually delete such references because more often than not it is the NeoNazis posting it.

But if you fell that strongly about it close FB(you wont miss it believe me) and cancel your licence like many are now doing.

[Zacs-Master]

If a black person or BAME person came on here and said GWTW and various statues were genuinely offensive to them, would any AB members appreciate that and understand why that person, and persons of their race, might want them to be less accessible or removed?

[youngmafbog]

If said BAME person explained why then yes I am sure many on AB would understand.

But that is the way to do it, the problem we are having is there is no discussion just pure vandalism.

[jim360]

GWTW isn't being taken down permanently. The plan is to put it back up but in better context. All those people worried about history being erased or rewritten sound rather hollow in their protests when they are complaining against extra context. The depiction of slave characters as being content with their lot is not remotely historical.

[Mozz71]

Gone With The Wind is an interesting case.Wi

When it was released, a lot of people disliked it claiming that the character of Mammy was too familiar with the white families. It fuelled a lot of racial tensions for the opposite reason that it does now.

It's also worth remembering that while Hartie McDaniel paved the way for black performers in Hollywood by winner the Best Supporting Actress Oscar, she did not attend the movie's premier in Georgia, because of segregation laws.

The movie is important itself in 20th century black history.

[TheWholeTruth]

"If a black person or BAME person came on here and said GWTW and various statues were genuinely offensive to them, would any AB members appreciate that and understand why that person, and persons of their race, might want them to be less accessible or removed?"

couldnt care less what they think...plenty of things i find "offensive" but i dont scream and shout and riot until i get what i want on a plate....

[zebo]

Only erasing the bits they don't like, there will be no references to anything they reflects badly on non-white people.

[jim360]

Would it hurt to understand *why* they think it, though?